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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 02:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Eric&lt;/strong&gt;

I&#039;m toying between a Tony Robbins course or a Tony Buzan course in the UK.  I&#039;m enjoying your site and will start writing more comments from now on.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m toying between a Tony Robbins course or a Tony Buzan course in the UK.  I&#8217;m enjoying your site and will start writing more comments from now on.</p>
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		<title>By: hair removal, laser hair removal</title>
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		<dc:creator>hair removal, laser hair removal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;hair removal&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<title>By: Anon in CH</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon in CH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An earlier post suggested having parents face consequences of their children and in fact certain comunities in various states have enacted such laws.  My community was one of them.  This is an old article and I dont know how much is still active but you can find more information out about it online.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F05E5DB1039F933A25757C0A960958260&amp;sec=&amp;spon=&amp;pagewanted=print

I&#039;m not saying this is an answer - just that it exists.

My uncle briefly lived in PG County and his neighborhood through the assistance of a local pastor created a little database on the families who lived there (the parents, children, ages, and photos of the children) and when someone in the neighborhood saw some kids up to no good they could tell the pastor and he confronted the parents.

It would take some strong community involvement to make something like this work and I dont know that this is the answer either but it certainly made the parents more aware and hopefully more involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An earlier post suggested having parents face consequences of their children and in fact certain comunities in various states have enacted such laws.  My community was one of them.  This is an old article and I dont know how much is still active but you can find more information out about it online.</p>
<p><a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F05E5DB1039F933A25757C0A960958260&amp;sec=&amp;spon=&amp;pagewanted=print" rel="nofollow">http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F05E5DB1039F933A25757C0A960958260&amp;sec=&amp;spon=&amp;pagewanted=print</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying this is an answer &#8211; just that it exists.</p>
<p>My uncle briefly lived in PG County and his neighborhood through the assistance of a local pastor created a little database on the families who lived there (the parents, children, ages, and photos of the children) and when someone in the neighborhood saw some kids up to no good they could tell the pastor and he confronted the parents.</p>
<p>It would take some strong community involvement to make something like this work and I dont know that this is the answer either but it certainly made the parents more aware and hopefully more involved.</p>
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		<title>By: oden</title>
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		<dc:creator>oden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim: true, but did I mention the beatings?

I did get free haircuts though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim: true, but did I mention the beatings?</p>
<p>I did get free haircuts though.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oden, IMO, money or lack of it does not equate to class. I feel it is basically how one is raised and the hope that the person will maintain those values, despite external influences and pressures.

Anon-I agree with you 100% and then some.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oden, IMO, money or lack of it does not equate to class. I feel it is basically how one is raised and the hope that the person will maintain those values, despite external influences and pressures.</p>
<p>Anon-I agree with you 100% and then some.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 01:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a problem with being POOR. It is a problem with having a lack of opportunities for generation after generation.

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No, these are kids pulling the trigger, not their grandparents.  These are kids living in Northwest pulling the trigger, not Anacostia.  You can&#039;t say that kids in NW don&#039;t have plenty of opportunities or that the opportunities to get good government jobs weren&#039;t solidified here by 1966.  This isn&#039;t 1971 when Jim Crow was still being eliminated, this is 40 years after Jim Crow was eliminated.  And let me reiterate, this is Northwest.

And when it comes to education, man, when DC schools sucked in the 1970s, people could still blame the man.  I go down to schools now and every single person working there and miseducating the kids is black.  The tax money is flowing into the schools and the people who were caught stealing money from the teachers union or stealing money from the chess club to pay for gospel tickets didn&#039;t look very white to me.  The school system in DC was designed and administered by African-Americans.

Then there&#039;s Skeletor and the rest of the women who stole $31 million of my real estate taxes.  They didn&#039;t look like the man to me.  You know who they looked like.  They looked like church ladies.

What&#039;s going to happen when Obama&#039;s in the White House?  Then will people realize and recognize that all the avenues of opportunity have been open for the last 10 years?  No one will have an excuse but their own actions, right?

I work with these guys from the Carirbean.  They went to college in Jamaica and Barbados, then got PhDs in London.  They worked as cruise ship waiters and busboys and lived in single rooms in London and showered in the gyms.  Why?  Because they demanded the PhDs that would take them out of the slums.  I talk to women who are bragging their grandkids &quot;have good jobs.&quot;  Screw that, these kids should be getting PhDs.

Were Jamaicans not descended from slaves?  Were they not discriminated against and raised in ghettos?  No matter how many Brits told them they couldn&#039;t understand mathematics or couldn&#039;t understand engineering they ignored them and they won.  But they made the decision to do it.  These other kids made the decision to fire guns and no one can tell me that society made that decision for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a problem with being POOR. It is a problem with having a lack of opportunities for generation after generation.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>No, these are kids pulling the trigger, not their grandparents.  These are kids living in Northwest pulling the trigger, not Anacostia.  You can&#8217;t say that kids in NW don&#8217;t have plenty of opportunities or that the opportunities to get good government jobs weren&#8217;t solidified here by 1966.  This isn&#8217;t 1971 when Jim Crow was still being eliminated, this is 40 years after Jim Crow was eliminated.  And let me reiterate, this is Northwest.</p>
<p>And when it comes to education, man, when DC schools sucked in the 1970s, people could still blame the man.  I go down to schools now and every single person working there and miseducating the kids is black.  The tax money is flowing into the schools and the people who were caught stealing money from the teachers union or stealing money from the chess club to pay for gospel tickets didn&#8217;t look very white to me.  The school system in DC was designed and administered by African-Americans.</p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s Skeletor and the rest of the women who stole $31 million of my real estate taxes.  They didn&#8217;t look like the man to me.  You know who they looked like.  They looked like church ladies.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s going to happen when Obama&#8217;s in the White House?  Then will people realize and recognize that all the avenues of opportunity have been open for the last 10 years?  No one will have an excuse but their own actions, right?</p>
<p>I work with these guys from the Carirbean.  They went to college in Jamaica and Barbados, then got PhDs in London.  They worked as cruise ship waiters and busboys and lived in single rooms in London and showered in the gyms.  Why?  Because they demanded the PhDs that would take them out of the slums.  I talk to women who are bragging their grandkids &#8220;have good jobs.&#8221;  Screw that, these kids should be getting PhDs.</p>
<p>Were Jamaicans not descended from slaves?  Were they not discriminated against and raised in ghettos?  No matter how many Brits told them they couldn&#8217;t understand mathematics or couldn&#8217;t understand engineering they ignored them and they won.  But they made the decision to do it.  These other kids made the decision to fire guns and no one can tell me that society made that decision for them.</p>
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		<title>By: oden</title>
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		<dc:creator>oden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t buy the permanent underclass theory either, especially since I am the product of a bricklayer and a hairdresser.  Boy, could mom ever lay that brick! ;)

Plus, you don&#039;t have to look far to see that family money can turn an idiot, who would otherwise be drinking beer and watching NASCAR in his trailer, into a success:

1600 Pennsylvania Ave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t buy the permanent underclass theory either, especially since I am the product of a bricklayer and a hairdresser.  Boy, could mom ever lay that brick! <img src='http://www.princeofpetworth.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Plus, you don&#8217;t have to look far to see that family money can turn an idiot, who would otherwise be drinking beer and watching NASCAR in his trailer, into a success:</p>
<p>1600 Pennsylvania Ave.</p>
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		<title>By: Prince Of Petworth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prince Of Petworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And that is the final word.  This has been a very healthy discussion.  I don&#039;t want it to degrade.  Thank you all for your thoughts and comments.  Further comments bordering on racism will be deleted.  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that is the final word.  This has been a very healthy discussion.  I don&#8217;t want it to degrade.  Thank you all for your thoughts and comments.  Further comments bordering on racism will be deleted.  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Otis Gal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Otis Gal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christina, you are right on. Being poor is key, look at rural America, they have to buy Sudafed over the counter because the poor white folk want to mix it with fertilizer and ingest it.  They do this while they are pregnant, their kids aren&#039;t so smart and they aren&#039;t thinking about education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christina, you are right on. Being poor is key, look at rural America, they have to buy Sudafed over the counter because the poor white folk want to mix it with fertilizer and ingest it.  They do this while they are pregnant, their kids aren&#8217;t so smart and they aren&#8217;t thinking about education.</p>
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Unfortunately, in the black culture this behavior is lionized. People look up to it in our community.&quot;
Oh my god. Please, Nathan, what black culture are you talking about. Mine? Yours? C&#039;mon now. There are dysfunctional elements, abso-freakin&#039;-lutely. But please don&#039;t buy into the crap promulgated by racist people that the problems of black people are somehow encoded in our DNA. I know you are disheartened, but seriously. This is a problem with being POOR.  It is a problem with having a lack of opportunities for generation after generation. But it&#039;s not like black people invented bad kids, bad parenting, drugs, whatever.

I swear sometimes that all the racists have to do is start the ball rolling, and black folks will be happy to do their dirty work for them. Some of us have totally bought into the notion that we are somehow broken. But, I wouldn&#039;t buy this POV coming from a white guy, and it&#039;s not something I&#039;m willing to buy from a black guy, even if you do know a lot of people on Section 8.

I sense that you, like the rest of us, are struggling for solutions -- it&#039;s hard. I feel that you are sincere. Just don&#039;t make the brush too broad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Unfortunately, in the black culture this behavior is lionized. People look up to it in our community.&#8221;<br />
Oh my god. Please, Nathan, what black culture are you talking about. Mine? Yours? C&#8217;mon now. There are dysfunctional elements, abso-freakin&#8217;-lutely. But please don&#8217;t buy into the crap promulgated by racist people that the problems of black people are somehow encoded in our DNA. I know you are disheartened, but seriously. This is a problem with being POOR.  It is a problem with having a lack of opportunities for generation after generation. But it&#8217;s not like black people invented bad kids, bad parenting, drugs, whatever.</p>
<p>I swear sometimes that all the racists have to do is start the ball rolling, and black folks will be happy to do their dirty work for them. Some of us have totally bought into the notion that we are somehow broken. But, I wouldn&#8217;t buy this POV coming from a white guy, and it&#8217;s not something I&#8217;m willing to buy from a black guy, even if you do know a lot of people on Section 8.</p>
<p>I sense that you, like the rest of us, are struggling for solutions &#8212; it&#8217;s hard. I feel that you are sincere. Just don&#8217;t make the brush too broad.</p>
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