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		<title>By: Kalia</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2008/07/jackpot/#comment-120638</link>
		<dc:creator>Kalia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 00:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only problem I have with the Mormans or any other religious group coming to my door, (and I had a ton come to my apt in college) is when you try to politely dismiss them.  They push and push and make you feel like unless you give them an inch to come back at another time they won&#039;t leave making you feel awkward in your own doorway.  I&#039;m sure they aren&#039;t all like this, but every group that has ever come to my door has been and I&#039;m not talking 1 or 2.  It makes me feel awkward and uncomfortable and then angry at the fact that I feel like I have to be rude to have my wishes heard and to be left alone.  I don&#039;t want your reading materials, I don&#039;t want you to come back, I am completely happy with the beliefs I have, and no I don&#039;t care to watch your movie or talk about my beliefs with you.

 Also, I don&#039;t think it is fair to say that these kids are volunteering per say when they are required by their religion to partake in community service whether by actual doctrine or unspoken tradition and wishes and pressure from their family and the congregation.  While yes, I agree having a boy or girl coerced with tons of pressure from their family and church/temple/wherever and probably the fear of burning in hell to mow a lawn is better than another crack head teen, I don&#039;t really think it is fair to say its because they are all &quot;willing&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only problem I have with the Mormans or any other religious group coming to my door, (and I had a ton come to my apt in college) is when you try to politely dismiss them.  They push and push and make you feel like unless you give them an inch to come back at another time they won&#8217;t leave making you feel awkward in your own doorway.  I&#8217;m sure they aren&#8217;t all like this, but every group that has ever come to my door has been and I&#8217;m not talking 1 or 2.  It makes me feel awkward and uncomfortable and then angry at the fact that I feel like I have to be rude to have my wishes heard and to be left alone.  I don&#8217;t want your reading materials, I don&#8217;t want you to come back, I am completely happy with the beliefs I have, and no I don&#8217;t care to watch your movie or talk about my beliefs with you.</p>
<p> Also, I don&#8217;t think it is fair to say that these kids are volunteering per say when they are required by their religion to partake in community service whether by actual doctrine or unspoken tradition and wishes and pressure from their family and the congregation.  While yes, I agree having a boy or girl coerced with tons of pressure from their family and church/temple/wherever and probably the fear of burning in hell to mow a lawn is better than another crack head teen, I don&#8217;t really think it is fair to say its because they are all &#8220;willing&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: tania</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2008/07/jackpot/#comment-120637</link>
		<dc:creator>tania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They *have* been around for years, and did stand out, ahem, more in the past... that said, as a practically lifelong member of a neighborhood where they have been out and about for decades, never ONCE have I have been approached.  It kind of makes me feel like I don&#039;t look worth saving . . . *sniff*.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They *have* been around for years, and did stand out, ahem, more in the past&#8230; that said, as a practically lifelong member of a neighborhood where they have been out and about for decades, never ONCE have I have been approached.  It kind of makes me feel like I don&#8217;t look worth saving . . . *sniff*.</p>
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		<title>By: StubsDC</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2008/07/jackpot/#comment-120636</link>
		<dc:creator>StubsDC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok - I&#039;ll go ahead and out myself as a Mormon. Let the angry mobs gather!

 To set the record straight - young men in the church are strongly encouraged to serve a mission when they turn 19 years old. For girls, you go when you are 21. It is a two year stint for guys and 18 months for girls, and - get this - you have to pay for it yourself! You are expected to save for your mission at the same time you are saving money for college.

 You also don&#039;t get to pick where you go. Of my female friends who have gone, two went to Bulgaria, one to Brazil, one to Detroit, one to DC on a Vietnamese speaking mission, one to Japan (think how much a 6ft white woman stands out there) and two to southern California. My brother went to Utah (yup, they have missionaries in Utah) and my husband served in Peru. I didn&#039;t serve a mission.

 The other thing to keep in mind is that these guys voluntarily give up TWO YEARS to go out and serve their church and their God. They don&#039;t get to watch tv, or date, or even be alone with a member of the opposite sex. It&#039;s not some cushy summer camp. Oh, and they are required to do a certain amount of community service every week too. Want them to weed your yard? They&#039;ll do it. Want them to wash windows? How many 19 year old boys do you know that are so willing to go out and serve. Maybe people should find real things to complain about rather than people trying to do a little good in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok &#8211; I&#8217;ll go ahead and out myself as a Mormon. Let the angry mobs gather!</p>
<p> To set the record straight &#8211; young men in the church are strongly encouraged to serve a mission when they turn 19 years old. For girls, you go when you are 21. It is a two year stint for guys and 18 months for girls, and &#8211; get this &#8211; you have to pay for it yourself! You are expected to save for your mission at the same time you are saving money for college.</p>
<p> You also don&#8217;t get to pick where you go. Of my female friends who have gone, two went to Bulgaria, one to Brazil, one to Detroit, one to DC on a Vietnamese speaking mission, one to Japan (think how much a 6ft white woman stands out there) and two to southern California. My brother went to Utah (yup, they have missionaries in Utah) and my husband served in Peru. I didn&#8217;t serve a mission.</p>
<p> The other thing to keep in mind is that these guys voluntarily give up TWO YEARS to go out and serve their church and their God. They don&#8217;t get to watch tv, or date, or even be alone with a member of the opposite sex. It&#8217;s not some cushy summer camp. Oh, and they are required to do a certain amount of community service every week too. Want them to weed your yard? They&#8217;ll do it. Want them to wash windows? How many 19 year old boys do you know that are so willing to go out and serve. Maybe people should find real things to complain about rather than people trying to do a little good in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: OTBerbur</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2008/07/jackpot/#comment-120635</link>
		<dc:creator>OTBerbur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was once on a train from Sion, Switzerland to Geneva.  One of a group of clean-cut young men addressed something to me in French.  I responded in French that I was not fluent in the language.  The leader of the group then deduced I was an English-speaking American, and asked me my business in Switzerland.  I responded, and asked him what he was doing.  The response: &quot;I&#039;m Elder Johnson with the Church of Latter-Day Saints.&quot;  My desire to conduct a conversation immediately ceased.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was once on a train from Sion, Switzerland to Geneva.  One of a group of clean-cut young men addressed something to me in French.  I responded in French that I was not fluent in the language.  The leader of the group then deduced I was an English-speaking American, and asked me my business in Switzerland.  I responded, and asked him what he was doing.  The response: &#8220;I&#8217;m Elder Johnson with the Church of Latter-Day Saints.&#8221;  My desire to conduct a conversation immediately ceased.</p>
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		<title>By: Irving Streete</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2008/07/jackpot/#comment-120634</link>
		<dc:creator>Irving Streete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Mormons have been around a long time -- the stood out a lot more 10 or 15 years ago.  Funny, I&#039;ve never seen them &quot;down the hill,&quot; just up in MtP/CH/PW.  I once ran into a missionary in an internet cafe in Nice, France.  I wondered how they decide who gets to go to Nice and who gets stuck with Columbia Heights.

 I hear they&#039;re sending creating a new crack proselytizing team for the more dangerous areas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXOh4g_FLIM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Mormons have been around a long time &#8212; the stood out a lot more 10 or 15 years ago.  Funny, I&#8217;ve never seen them &#8220;down the hill,&#8221; just up in MtP/CH/PW.  I once ran into a missionary in an internet cafe in Nice, France.  I wondered how they decide who gets to go to Nice and who gets stuck with Columbia Heights.</p>
<p> I hear they&#8217;re sending creating a new crack proselytizing team for the more dangerous areas: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXOh4g_FLIM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXOh4g_FLIM</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2008/07/jackpot/#comment-120633</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the one poster--they&#039;re not breaking the law, so lay off.  Plus, it&#039;s pretty uncool to make fun of these guys because of their religion--isn&#039;t there a garden or a tattoo we can all critique? They&#039;re doing what they think is right and are probably very nice people--every Mormon I&#039;ve ever known has been.  Bad call with this post, PoP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the one poster&#8211;they&#8217;re not breaking the law, so lay off.  Plus, it&#8217;s pretty uncool to make fun of these guys because of their religion&#8211;isn&#8217;t there a garden or a tattoo we can all critique? They&#8217;re doing what they think is right and are probably very nice people&#8211;every Mormon I&#8217;ve ever known has been.  Bad call with this post, PoP.</p>
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		<title>By: saf</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2008/07/jackpot/#comment-120632</link>
		<dc:creator>saf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As for Mormons, only boys do mission, I believe.&quot; It&#039;s only boys are required to go on mission.  I have met girls on mission.  They were all up by AU, and tell me that they are sent to &quot;safer&quot; neighborhoods. (I read that as &quot;whiter&quot; neighborhoods.)

 a few of my Mormon missionary stories:

 Years ago, the husband was walking home from the bus. (this was before he grew a beard, and long before said beard went grey) Mormon kids had been out and about in the neighborhood. A guy chased him down the street.  &quot;Excuse me, excuse me sir! Are you one of those late-day saints? &#039;cause I&#039;ve got some questions.&quot; &quot;Sorry, I&#039;m not.&quot;  Guy gets all embarrassed, &quot;Oh, sorry, can&#039;t believe I did that, oh sorry (repeat for a good long time)&quot; and eventually leaves.

 Also years ago (she passed at least 10 years ago now), Ms Peoples was out on her porch, when the Mormon boys came by. They walked up the steps. &quot;Ma&#039;am, we&#039;d like to talk to you about Jesus.&quot; This may not have been the best thing to say to a sweet Baptist  lady. &quot;Oh, Jesus, he&#039;s my friend!&quot; The boys didn&#039;t get a word in edgewise for the next 2 hours.  They didn&#039;t come back.

 And many years before either of these happened, I was waiting tables at a pizza place in Mt Pleasant, now long gone. The Mormon boys all lived at the Woodner (for all I know,. they still do). They would come in for lunch every day (we had a cheap pizza and salad buffet). They didn&#039;t tip at all. They would leave leaflets, and would try to convert us. I still think they should be trained on how not to piss off potential converts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As for Mormons, only boys do mission, I believe.&#8221; It&#8217;s only boys are required to go on mission.  I have met girls on mission.  They were all up by AU, and tell me that they are sent to &#8220;safer&#8221; neighborhoods. (I read that as &#8220;whiter&#8221; neighborhoods.)</p>
<p> a few of my Mormon missionary stories:</p>
<p> Years ago, the husband was walking home from the bus. (this was before he grew a beard, and long before said beard went grey) Mormon kids had been out and about in the neighborhood. A guy chased him down the street.  &#8220;Excuse me, excuse me sir! Are you one of those late-day saints? &#8217;cause I&#8217;ve got some questions.&#8221; &#8220;Sorry, I&#8217;m not.&#8221;  Guy gets all embarrassed, &#8220;Oh, sorry, can&#8217;t believe I did that, oh sorry (repeat for a good long time)&#8221; and eventually leaves.</p>
<p> Also years ago (she passed at least 10 years ago now), Ms Peoples was out on her porch, when the Mormon boys came by. They walked up the steps. &#8220;Ma&#8217;am, we&#8217;d like to talk to you about Jesus.&#8221; This may not have been the best thing to say to a sweet Baptist  lady. &#8220;Oh, Jesus, he&#8217;s my friend!&#8221; The boys didn&#8217;t get a word in edgewise for the next 2 hours.  They didn&#8217;t come back.</p>
<p> And many years before either of these happened, I was waiting tables at a pizza place in Mt Pleasant, now long gone. The Mormon boys all lived at the Woodner (for all I know,. they still do). They would come in for lunch every day (we had a cheap pizza and salad buffet). They didn&#8217;t tip at all. They would leave leaflets, and would try to convert us. I still think they should be trained on how not to piss off potential converts.</p>
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		<title>By: 16th_St_Hts</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2008/07/jackpot/#comment-120631</link>
		<dc:creator>16th_St_Hts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoy a nice give and take with the Mormons over a decaf tea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy a nice give and take with the Mormons over a decaf tea.</p>
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		<title>By: reuben</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2008/07/jackpot/#comment-120630</link>
		<dc:creator>reuben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had some genial conversaions with these folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had some genial conversaions with these folks.</p>
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		<title>By: new girl</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2008/07/jackpot/#comment-120629</link>
		<dc:creator>new girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha ha -  LOL at GforGood&#039;s caption!  That&#039;s very funny!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha &#8211;  LOL at GforGood&#8217;s caption!  That&#8217;s very funny!</p>
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