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		<title>By: Matt Boyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Boyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>. . . On allowing commenters to speak for themselves:

 #  CP Says:
 &lt;b&gt;July 23rd, 2008 at 1:12 pm&lt;/b&gt;

 Tattoos are for undesirables. The rabid defense of tattoos in some of these columns speaks volumes about the vapid, short-sighted, “look at me!” mindset of a huge lowlife subculture. Try getting a real job or looking anything other than trashy and ill-bred with an exposed tattoo. Good luck.

 CP Says:
 &lt;b&gt;July 24th, 2008 at 11:12 am&lt;/b&gt;

 Folks, many of you are missing an important point — a common theme in many posts and comments on this blog is that it is somehow “special” to be different, to be nonconformist. Yet the bulk of commenters seem to relish the opportunity to heap criticism on the two or three people who are “different” enough to question the idea that tattoos are terrific. Moreover, several of these people aren’t just attacking our claims — they’re making bizarre ad hominem attacks


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 #  CP Says:
 July 23rd, 2008 at 1:12 pm
 undesirables rabid vapid short-sighted lowlife trashy ill-bred

 CP Says:
 July 24th, 2008 at 11:12 am
 bizarre ad hominem attacks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>. . . On allowing commenters to speak for themselves:</p>
<p> #  CP Says:<br />
 <b>July 23rd, 2008 at 1:12 pm</b></p>
<p> Tattoos are for undesirables. The rabid defense of tattoos in some of these columns speaks volumes about the vapid, short-sighted, “look at me!” mindset of a huge lowlife subculture. Try getting a real job or looking anything other than trashy and ill-bred with an exposed tattoo. Good luck.</p>
<p> CP Says:<br />
 <b>July 24th, 2008 at 11:12 am</b></p>
<p> Folks, many of you are missing an important point — a common theme in many posts and comments on this blog is that it is somehow “special” to be different, to be nonconformist. Yet the bulk of commenters seem to relish the opportunity to heap criticism on the two or three people who are “different” enough to question the idea that tattoos are terrific. Moreover, several of these people aren’t just attacking our claims — they’re making bizarre ad hominem attacks</p>
<p> <b>SHORTIFIED:</b></p>
<p> #  CP Says:<br />
 July 23rd, 2008 at 1:12 pm<br />
 undesirables rabid vapid short-sighted lowlife trashy ill-bred</p>
<p> CP Says:<br />
 July 24th, 2008 at 11:12 am<br />
 bizarre ad hominem attacks</p>
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		<title>By: Tatts</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2008/07/pop-opinion/#comment-120427</link>
		<dc:creator>Tatts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CP, you have demonstrated not only a rather silly and baseless prejudice, but now, an apparent inability to reason.

 you started from an invalid presumption of &quot;tattooed people are ugly, unprofessional, self-absorbed exhibitionist losers.  prove me wrong.&quot;  well, we&#039;ve all done that.   repeating &quot;did not, did not, did not&quot; doesn&#039;t qualify as rational rebuttal, but you are perhaps too simple-minded to see that.  any 1L (or sixth grader) would, though.

 the point i, and others, have made is that under no definition of self-absorbed,  loser or &quot;unprofessional&quot; (except the &quot;because CP says so&quot; definition) would any rational person use those terms to describe  the VAST majority of the people who have tattoos.

 as for &quot;ugly,&quot; obviously, attraction is in the eye of the beholder, so what any individual does or doesn&#039;t find attractive is absolutely subjective.  some people think a nicely done tattoo is beautiful, others don&#039;t.  some people really love Picasso, others don&#039;t.  some folks like Joy Division, others flee from the opening chords of &quot;Day of the Lords.&quot;  but claiming those who don&#039;t share your tastes are just &quot;ugly self-absorbed losers&quot; is simply foolishness.

 (and perhaps you should learn to read for comprehension;  i never wrote that i was &quot;well-paid,&quot; i said i had a nice job that allowed me to live comfortably.  i define that as having a job that i enjoy, leaves me feeling like i&#039;ve accomplished something good every day, is intellectually stimulating, keeps a (Petworth) roof over my head, and allows me to meet the mortgage and know where my next meal is coming from.  i am by no means wealthy, but i am better off than most people, and i know how fortunate i am to be able to say that.  that you read &quot;well paid&quot; into my posting is an interesting rorschach test about you.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CP, you have demonstrated not only a rather silly and baseless prejudice, but now, an apparent inability to reason.</p>
<p> you started from an invalid presumption of &#8220;tattooed people are ugly, unprofessional, self-absorbed exhibitionist losers.  prove me wrong.&#8221;  well, we&#8217;ve all done that.   repeating &#8220;did not, did not, did not&#8221; doesn&#8217;t qualify as rational rebuttal, but you are perhaps too simple-minded to see that.  any 1L (or sixth grader) would, though.</p>
<p> the point i, and others, have made is that under no definition of self-absorbed,  loser or &#8220;unprofessional&#8221; (except the &#8220;because CP says so&#8221; definition) would any rational person use those terms to describe  the VAST majority of the people who have tattoos.</p>
<p> as for &#8220;ugly,&#8221; obviously, attraction is in the eye of the beholder, so what any individual does or doesn&#8217;t find attractive is absolutely subjective.  some people think a nicely done tattoo is beautiful, others don&#8217;t.  some people really love Picasso, others don&#8217;t.  some folks like Joy Division, others flee from the opening chords of &#8220;Day of the Lords.&#8221;  but claiming those who don&#8217;t share your tastes are just &#8220;ugly self-absorbed losers&#8221; is simply foolishness.</p>
<p> (and perhaps you should learn to read for comprehension;  i never wrote that i was &#8220;well-paid,&#8221; i said i had a nice job that allowed me to live comfortably.  i define that as having a job that i enjoy, leaves me feeling like i&#8217;ve accomplished something good every day, is intellectually stimulating, keeps a (Petworth) roof over my head, and allows me to meet the mortgage and know where my next meal is coming from.  i am by no means wealthy, but i am better off than most people, and i know how fortunate i am to be able to say that.  that you read &#8220;well paid&#8221; into my posting is an interesting rorschach test about you.)</p>
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		<title>By: wow</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2008/07/pop-opinion/#comment-120426</link>
		<dc:creator>wow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>64 and counting !maybe i&#039;ll have that tattooed on my arm..so poo poo to you you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>64 and counting !maybe i&#8217;ll have that tattooed on my arm..so poo poo to you you</p>
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		<title>By: Kalia</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2008/07/pop-opinion/#comment-120425</link>
		<dc:creator>Kalia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction:
 Maybe my reasons are stupid to you, but honestly I don’t really care because it is about how I feel about it and *NOT how you feel about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction:<br />
 Maybe my reasons are stupid to you, but honestly I don’t really care because it is about how I feel about it and *NOT how you feel about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kalia</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2008/07/pop-opinion/#comment-120424</link>
		<dc:creator>Kalia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Piercings, tattoos, and other things like scarification are just a form of adornment much like clothing that goes beyond the function of &quot;need&quot;.  Anything that is beyond that can be arguably just as rediculous by someone who doesn&#039;t care for that style.  To call people who chose to partake in a certain type of fashion &quot;low lives&quot;, &quot;losers&quot;, etc is pretty judgemental and mean.  I don&#039;t know why all tattoos are offensive to you, but I can personally answer the reason that I like tattoos and what I think is so great about them.  I like my tattoo because it is something I have always wanted, always been drawn to having.  I like my tattoo because I like the way it looks on my skin.  I like my tattoo because it is another way to express something about myself, much like wearing a certain hairstyle or type of fashion style.  I like my tattoo because it is a reminder of a fun vacation I took to see my friends when I just needed to get away.  I like my tattoo because I like how my boyfriend likes it.  I like my tattoo because I think it is cute.  I could go on and on.  Maybe my reasons are stupid to you, but honestly I don&#039;t really care because it is about how I feel about it and now how you feel about it.  Even had I not gotten a tattoo I would still be the same person I am now.

 I don&#039;t think all people get tattoos on their necks and arms because they have given up on getting &quot;real&quot; &quot;respected&quot; &quot;classy&quot; jobs, but probably because their priority is just that they want a job where they fit in and where they are accepted for who they are, how they are and not one where they have to hide parts of them to conform.  I also don&#039;t think it is fair to say all people get tattoos to &quot;damn the man&quot; and &quot;act out against conformity&quot; since a large number of people get tattoos for the exact opposite; to fit in with their peers; but this is with a lot of things.

 I do think that you are being pretty narrow minded to lump us all together and draw conclusions based on something you don&#039;t fully understand or agree with and like someone mentioned above it is just those types of conclusions that racists use.  And I don&#039;t understand why someone who doesn&#039;t live in the area, has no desire to step foot in the area, thinks reading a post and putting in their 2cents speaks very highly of themself considering how ugly your comments got.  Putting people down for pure enjoyment, which is what this seems like is a pretty low life thing to do.  So as a tattood low life...Welcome to the club!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Piercings, tattoos, and other things like scarification are just a form of adornment much like clothing that goes beyond the function of &#8220;need&#8221;.  Anything that is beyond that can be arguably just as rediculous by someone who doesn&#8217;t care for that style.  To call people who chose to partake in a certain type of fashion &#8220;low lives&#8221;, &#8220;losers&#8221;, etc is pretty judgemental and mean.  I don&#8217;t know why all tattoos are offensive to you, but I can personally answer the reason that I like tattoos and what I think is so great about them.  I like my tattoo because it is something I have always wanted, always been drawn to having.  I like my tattoo because I like the way it looks on my skin.  I like my tattoo because it is another way to express something about myself, much like wearing a certain hairstyle or type of fashion style.  I like my tattoo because it is a reminder of a fun vacation I took to see my friends when I just needed to get away.  I like my tattoo because I like how my boyfriend likes it.  I like my tattoo because I think it is cute.  I could go on and on.  Maybe my reasons are stupid to you, but honestly I don&#8217;t really care because it is about how I feel about it and now how you feel about it.  Even had I not gotten a tattoo I would still be the same person I am now.</p>
<p> I don&#8217;t think all people get tattoos on their necks and arms because they have given up on getting &#8220;real&#8221; &#8220;respected&#8221; &#8220;classy&#8221; jobs, but probably because their priority is just that they want a job where they fit in and where they are accepted for who they are, how they are and not one where they have to hide parts of them to conform.  I also don&#8217;t think it is fair to say all people get tattoos to &#8220;damn the man&#8221; and &#8220;act out against conformity&#8221; since a large number of people get tattoos for the exact opposite; to fit in with their peers; but this is with a lot of things.</p>
<p> I do think that you are being pretty narrow minded to lump us all together and draw conclusions based on something you don&#8217;t fully understand or agree with and like someone mentioned above it is just those types of conclusions that racists use.  And I don&#8217;t understand why someone who doesn&#8217;t live in the area, has no desire to step foot in the area, thinks reading a post and putting in their 2cents speaks very highly of themself considering how ugly your comments got.  Putting people down for pure enjoyment, which is what this seems like is a pretty low life thing to do.  So as a tattood low life&#8230;Welcome to the club!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danny-what do you think about the (female )twentysomething uniform.? Big sunglasses-flip flops 24/7-and the use of what I call &quot;simile-ese&quot;.. ( the use of the word &quot;like&quot; every .3 seconds)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny-what do you think about the (female )twentysomething uniform.? Big sunglasses-flip flops 24/7-and the use of what I call &#8220;simile-ese&#8221;.. ( the use of the word &#8220;like&#8221; every .3 seconds)?</p>
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		<title>By: Boomhauer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boomhauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The point being made is that it’s an individual choice and says nothing about a person but that they like ink.&quot;

 To a limited degree it does say something (depending on the tattoo).  If you get a giant neck tattoo that&#039;s readily visible, that usually says that you&#039;ve given up on finding a respectable office job.  If you get a gang tat on you, it says that you&#039;re in a gang and you&#039;ve pretty much given up on living in normal society.  The idea that what you have inked on your and how much you have doesn&#039;t say anything is pure silliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The point being made is that it’s an individual choice and says nothing about a person but that they like ink.&#8221;</p>
<p> To a limited degree it does say something (depending on the tattoo).  If you get a giant neck tattoo that&#8217;s readily visible, that usually says that you&#8217;ve given up on finding a respectable office job.  If you get a gang tat on you, it says that you&#8217;re in a gang and you&#8217;ve pretty much given up on living in normal society.  The idea that what you have inked on your and how much you have doesn&#8217;t say anything is pure silliness.</p>
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		<title>By: saf</title>
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		<dc:creator>saf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re really missing the point here CP.  Nobody cares if you personally don&#039;t have ink and don&#039;t like ink. Really. The point being made is that it&#039;s an individual choice and says nothing about a person but that they like ink.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re really missing the point here CP.  Nobody cares if you personally don&#8217;t have ink and don&#8217;t like ink. Really. The point being made is that it&#8217;s an individual choice and says nothing about a person but that they like ink.</p>
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		<title>By: CP</title>
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		<dc:creator>CP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks, many of you are missing an important point -- a common theme in many posts and comments on this blog is that it is somehow &quot;special&quot; to be different, to be nonconformist.  Yet the bulk of commenters seem to relish the opportunity to heap criticism on the two or three people who are &quot;different&quot; enough to question the idea that tattoos are terrific.  Moreover, several of these people aren&#039;t just attacking our claims -- they&#039;re making bizarre ad hominem attacks, resorting to Republican-bashing (wrong) and Northern Virginia -bashing (something I typically enjoy, but, again, wrong).  And still, no one&#039;s offered a.) any redeeming qualities for this beloved body art or b.) any logical, well-written refutations of claims that tattoos are unprofessional, tacky, and emblems of a &quot;look at me&quot; mentality.  To claim that an attorney who is both tattooed and a &quot;well-paid contributing member of society&quot; somehow means that tattoos are a nice thing...gosh.  Seems to be a wild logical fallacy that any 1L (or undergrad philosophy student) wouldn&#039;t dare to make.  And equating a high salary with class?  It doesn&#039;t get much more GOP than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks, many of you are missing an important point &#8212; a common theme in many posts and comments on this blog is that it is somehow &#8220;special&#8221; to be different, to be nonconformist.  Yet the bulk of commenters seem to relish the opportunity to heap criticism on the two or three people who are &#8220;different&#8221; enough to question the idea that tattoos are terrific.  Moreover, several of these people aren&#8217;t just attacking our claims &#8212; they&#8217;re making bizarre ad hominem attacks, resorting to Republican-bashing (wrong) and Northern Virginia -bashing (something I typically enjoy, but, again, wrong).  And still, no one&#8217;s offered a.) any redeeming qualities for this beloved body art or b.) any logical, well-written refutations of claims that tattoos are unprofessional, tacky, and emblems of a &#8220;look at me&#8221; mentality.  To claim that an attorney who is both tattooed and a &#8220;well-paid contributing member of society&#8221; somehow means that tattoos are a nice thing&#8230;gosh.  Seems to be a wild logical fallacy that any 1L (or undergrad philosophy student) wouldn&#8217;t dare to make.  And equating a high salary with class?  It doesn&#8217;t get much more GOP than that.</p>
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		<title>By: ld</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M. - in Japan, tattoos are equated with Yakuza membership, and it is very common for bathhouses to deny entrance to those with tattoos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M. &#8211; in Japan, tattoos are equated with Yakuza membership, and it is very common for bathhouses to deny entrance to those with tattoos.</p>
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