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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 10:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and you&#039;re statement is the most ridiculous, short-minded piece of crap I&#039;ve read since, well, ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and you&#8217;re statement is the most ridiculous, short-minded piece of crap I&#8217;ve read since, well, ever.</p>
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		<title>By: neener</title>
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		<dc:creator>neener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 01:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“…and only those friends who abandoned pot by age 28-30 or so stayed out of the criminal justice system.”

Hah - laughable. Do you work on McCain’s campaign?
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Your statement is incoherent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“…and only those friends who abandoned pot by age 28-30 or so stayed out of the criminal justice system.”</p>
<p>Hah &#8211; laughable. Do you work on McCain’s campaign?<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Your statement is incoherent.</p>
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		<title>By: GforGood</title>
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		<dc:creator>GforGood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently another one in the general area:

http://www.columbiaheightsnews.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=900

How happy I now am that we could not affort to buy a house that &quot;far&quot; South in CH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently another one in the general area:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.columbiaheightsnews.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=900" rel="nofollow">http://www.columbiaheightsnews.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=900</a></p>
<p>How happy I now am that we could not affort to buy a house that &#8220;far&#8221; South in CH.</p>
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		<title>By: nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous,
Noone in the US would be for the gov&#039;t regulating how much alcohol one could consume.  Or cough syrup.  Or even cigarettes.  Once you are old enough, you can literally drink yourself to death.  The government will pick you up and take you to the morgue afterwards.  However, once you get behind the wheel of a car or a tractor at work, then the safety of others is put at risk.

Same goes for restaurants.  Smoke all you want at home.  But you can&#039;t smoke others out of restuarants, airplanes, etc.

Don&#039;t pollute the argument by using Marion barry.  Assuming he had run the city effectively, noone would care what he did in his past time.  That was his failure more than anything.  Our last 3 presidents Bush, Mccain/Obama, and Clinton have been weed smokers.  All (Bush, Obama) have probably done some coke.  It&#039;s time we stop thinking that drugs are evil.  Plenty of people use it recreationally without ruining themselves.

I recently bought a house.  Guess what was growing in the front yard?  A tall plant of marijuana.  Just growing out of the ground with no special attention paid to it.  Explain to me how any police force can combat a &quot;drug&quot; that is this simple to produce.  The gov&#039;t did a good job with meth as it is primarily a synthetic product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous,<br />
Noone in the US would be for the gov&#8217;t regulating how much alcohol one could consume.  Or cough syrup.  Or even cigarettes.  Once you are old enough, you can literally drink yourself to death.  The government will pick you up and take you to the morgue afterwards.  However, once you get behind the wheel of a car or a tractor at work, then the safety of others is put at risk.</p>
<p>Same goes for restaurants.  Smoke all you want at home.  But you can&#8217;t smoke others out of restuarants, airplanes, etc.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t pollute the argument by using Marion barry.  Assuming he had run the city effectively, noone would care what he did in his past time.  That was his failure more than anything.  Our last 3 presidents Bush, Mccain/Obama, and Clinton have been weed smokers.  All (Bush, Obama) have probably done some coke.  It&#8217;s time we stop thinking that drugs are evil.  Plenty of people use it recreationally without ruining themselves.</p>
<p>I recently bought a house.  Guess what was growing in the front yard?  A tall plant of marijuana.  Just growing out of the ground with no special attention paid to it.  Explain to me how any police force can combat a &#8220;drug&#8221; that is this simple to produce.  The gov&#8217;t did a good job with meth as it is primarily a synthetic product.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It&#039;s none of the government&#039;s business what you do as long as you do not put anyone else at risk&quot;???  What a dumb attitude.  The government certainly has the power to regulate that sort of stuff, AND it should.  The economic losses to society from drug abuse are enormous and reverberate throughout society: derelict parenting, taxing the public health care system, lost productivity at work, etc..  I&#039;m not saying focusing on prosecuting simple marijuana possession is the best use of law enforcement resources, or even that we shouldn&#039;t approach the drug problem primarily as a public health issue, but don&#039;t downplay the costs of this behavior to everyone else, or the general societal interest in putting it to an end.  To put it in perspective, that&#039;s exactly what I frequently hear in defense of Marion Barry from those who don&#039;t think he&#039;s DC&#039;s version of a bad punchline: &quot;That man didn&#039;t do anything to hurt anybody else.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s none of the government&#8217;s business what you do as long as you do not put anyone else at risk&#8221;???  What a dumb attitude.  The government certainly has the power to regulate that sort of stuff, AND it should.  The economic losses to society from drug abuse are enormous and reverberate throughout society: derelict parenting, taxing the public health care system, lost productivity at work, etc..  I&#8217;m not saying focusing on prosecuting simple marijuana possession is the best use of law enforcement resources, or even that we shouldn&#8217;t approach the drug problem primarily as a public health issue, but don&#8217;t downplay the costs of this behavior to everyone else, or the general societal interest in putting it to an end.  To put it in perspective, that&#8217;s exactly what I frequently hear in defense of Marion Barry from those who don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s DC&#8217;s version of a bad punchline: &#8220;That man didn&#8217;t do anything to hurt anybody else.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...and only those friends who abandoned pot by age 28-30 or so stayed out of the criminal justice system.&quot;

Hah - laughable.  Do you work on McCain&#039;s campaign?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;and only those friends who abandoned pot by age 28-30 or so stayed out of the criminal justice system.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hah &#8211; laughable.  Do you work on McCain&#8217;s campaign?</p>
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		<title>By: moemoesy</title>
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		<dc:creator>moemoesy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has nothing to do with drugs and more to do with the police.   I live near a very active corner by the GIANT.  There&#039;s a lot of criminal/police activity and I often get to witness the way the police act.

For instance:

It was late on a Sunday evening about a year ago when I heard a huge commotion outside of my house.  I looked out the window and saw about 15 police cars and officers (of all colors and creeds I might add).  It appeared the police had apprehended two robbery suspects.  The suspects were hispanic men in their twenties and didn&#039;t speak english.   After about an hour and an additional 15 police officers, they were able to confirm the two dudes were not the robbery suspects.  The police let them go but not before taunting them with cries of &quot;ARRIBA ARRIBA&quot; and other ethnic slurs as the men walked away.  It was disturbing on a whole new level.  To top it off, for the next hour, about 25 police officers stayed at the scene, loitering around, pimping themselves, making jokes about the suspects and generally imitating Reno 911.  I couldn&#039;t believe it.

And just last week, some poor tranny prostitute was harrassing a man parked in front of my house.  The guy punched the tranny and somewhere along the way, the police were called.   All I could hear from my window was &quot;Get on the GROUND NOW!!!&quot;   When I looked out I saw at least three cops with their guns pointing at the puncher who was trying to drive away.

Within five minutes, there were at least 15 more police officers at the scene.  The ambulance came, even though the punch was minimal and the tranny didn&#039;t want assistance.  Also - the fire department came because the police forgot to turn the suspect&#039;s car off so it overheated.  All told, there were at least 50 firemen, EMTs and police who responded because some guy/girl got punched in the nose.   Completely over the top!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has nothing to do with drugs and more to do with the police.   I live near a very active corner by the GIANT.  There&#8217;s a lot of criminal/police activity and I often get to witness the way the police act.</p>
<p>For instance:</p>
<p>It was late on a Sunday evening about a year ago when I heard a huge commotion outside of my house.  I looked out the window and saw about 15 police cars and officers (of all colors and creeds I might add).  It appeared the police had apprehended two robbery suspects.  The suspects were hispanic men in their twenties and didn&#8217;t speak english.   After about an hour and an additional 15 police officers, they were able to confirm the two dudes were not the robbery suspects.  The police let them go but not before taunting them with cries of &#8220;ARRIBA ARRIBA&#8221; and other ethnic slurs as the men walked away.  It was disturbing on a whole new level.  To top it off, for the next hour, about 25 police officers stayed at the scene, loitering around, pimping themselves, making jokes about the suspects and generally imitating Reno 911.  I couldn&#8217;t believe it.</p>
<p>And just last week, some poor tranny prostitute was harrassing a man parked in front of my house.  The guy punched the tranny and somewhere along the way, the police were called.   All I could hear from my window was &#8220;Get on the GROUND NOW!!!&#8221;   When I looked out I saw at least three cops with their guns pointing at the puncher who was trying to drive away.</p>
<p>Within five minutes, there were at least 15 more police officers at the scene.  The ambulance came, even though the punch was minimal and the tranny didn&#8217;t want assistance.  Also &#8211; the fire department came because the police forgot to turn the suspect&#8217;s car off so it overheated.  All told, there were at least 50 firemen, EMTs and police who responded because some guy/girl got punched in the nose.   Completely over the top!</p>
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		<title>By: nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neener,
Drugs are de facto legal now for all intents and purposes.  People just have not come to grips with that.  There is noone that wants drugs that can not easily find drugs.

With that said, we have two options.  We can allow what happened on the Fairmont Streets of the world to keep happening.  Or you can stir things up and take a different approach.  I guarantee you that if we stay on this path, 50 years from now we will be having the same petty shootouts between rival drug dealers.

I don&#039;t even think telling people to stop doing drugs is a viable option.  It is none of the government&#039;s business what you do as long as you do not put anyone else at risk (i.e. driving drunk/high).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neener,<br />
Drugs are de facto legal now for all intents and purposes.  People just have not come to grips with that.  There is noone that wants drugs that can not easily find drugs.</p>
<p>With that said, we have two options.  We can allow what happened on the Fairmont Streets of the world to keep happening.  Or you can stir things up and take a different approach.  I guarantee you that if we stay on this path, 50 years from now we will be having the same petty shootouts between rival drug dealers.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t even think telling people to stop doing drugs is a viable option.  It is none of the government&#8217;s business what you do as long as you do not put anyone else at risk (i.e. driving drunk/high).</p>
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		<title>By: Neener</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, if it is the crack dealer you have a problem with, let us solve this problem by regulating it. Let CVS and Duane Reade sell it. When CVS gets robbed, they call the police.

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ok, but let&#039;s look how well that works with alcohol.  How many times have you seen someone at a club that sells liquor get roughed up and beat up by bouncers rather than just calling the police.

Are you going to say that liquor distributors and nightclub owners never get into shootouts over turf?  I knew a family that worked in cigarette machine distribution and almost nothing about their business was above board.

I truly do believe my Atlantic City example is accurate- legalize it and be prepared to wallow in businesses as above board as casinos, bars and liquor stores.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, if it is the crack dealer you have a problem with, let us solve this problem by regulating it. Let CVS and Duane Reade sell it. When CVS gets robbed, they call the police.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>ok, but let&#8217;s look how well that works with alcohol.  How many times have you seen someone at a club that sells liquor get roughed up and beat up by bouncers rather than just calling the police.</p>
<p>Are you going to say that liquor distributors and nightclub owners never get into shootouts over turf?  I knew a family that worked in cigarette machine distribution and almost nothing about their business was above board.</p>
<p>I truly do believe my Atlantic City example is accurate- legalize it and be prepared to wallow in businesses as above board as casinos, bars and liquor stores.</p>
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		<title>By: okwithnotgoodenough</title>
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		<dc:creator>okwithnotgoodenough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. Thank God for MPD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. Thank God for MPD.</p>
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