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		<title>By: reuben</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2008/11/pops-ombudsman-responds/#comment-129383</link>
		<dc:creator>reuben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont think you &quot;come off stupid&quot;, Neener. Nor was I judging you.. Not by any means. You and I are in a similar boat...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont think you &#8220;come off stupid&#8221;, Neener. Nor was I judging you.. Not by any means. You and I are in a similar boat&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Odentex</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2008/11/pops-ombudsman-responds/#comment-129382</link>
		<dc:creator>Odentex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem in DC is that these disputes get settled with guns partly because having a gun in DC will get you no more than a slap on the wrist.  We can moan on and on about MPD (and I&#039;m not saying we shouldn&#039;t, they don&#039;t seem to give a flip about patrolling this neighborhood), but until the price of pool goes up with regards to carrying a firearm in this city, a lot of disputes that would otherwise result in a bunch of yelling, or an occasional beating, will instead result in stray bullets coming into peoples houses.

With the Heller Supreme Court case in the news a few months back there was a lot of lamentation about how this would effect the &quot;ban&quot; and no little editorializing in the WaPo about the end of the world, as if it matters a jot to the person carrying an illegal gun in DC  what the law is when they know they&#039;ll never spend a day in jail if caught with a gun.  The city could go a long way towards curtailing this by simply instituting reasonable sentences for gun possession.

Currently, a 1st time offense is considered a misdemeanor petty offense with a possible maximum punishment of 12 months in jail, but nearly all first offenders go free with time served (a day or two) or probation.  This is similar to a lot of states, and frankly, I don&#039;t have too much trouble with the first offender (assuming they are really a first offender) getting probation.  Virginia, that bastion of strict gun control, has a similar punishment for first offenders.  What I would like to see is probation terms handed with violators of probation for gun offenses facing a mandatory 90 days in DC jail if they screw up.  It sends a signal, but it also acknowledges that everyone gets one chance to shape up.

Where the DC code, and DC government from Fenty on down, has failed the citizens of DC in a deadly way is how gun crime for repeat offenders is handled.  Or should I say, not handled.  The punishment handed out for repeat offenders, people who have been caught with an illegal weapon at least once before, is, according to DC government, on average less than ZERO months in jail.

http://scdc.dc.gov/acs/frames.asp?doc=/acs/lib/acs/pdf/2006_chapter2.pdf

What?  &quot;How can that be?&quot; you&#039;re saying?  I&#039;m not entirely sure myself, but if you look at page 6 of the 2006 Report of the DC Sentencing Commission (their &#039;07 report is missing, and their &#039;08 report is suspiciously void of any data on sentences), you&#039;ll see in Figure 2-2 that not only do felony gun offenders get below &quot;0&quot; months in prison, the sentences gun offenders receive are lower that &quot;property&quot; crimes and drug offenses.

So, between 200-300 serious gun offenders ostensibly get probationary sentences or time served for repeat felony instances of illegally carrying guns.  There is no enhancement for having your third or subsequent felony possession, and even if the judge has a particularly bad hair day the maximum allowed by statute is 5 years.  However, even though DC government is careful not to produce the raw data on these sentences, we can see that if the average is below zero months in prison, and there are usually less than 300 cases, there isn&#039;t anyone (or hardly anyone) getting the max.

This is pathetic situation.  There needs to be a mandatory sentence for repeat gun offenders in this city.  2nd offense should merit a minimum of 1 year in prison.  This would make an impact.  Time served and a revolving door don&#039;t.

I would like to go to this meeting on Thursday, but I probably cannot attend.  So, I hope that someone might mention this to the city fathers when they start wringing their hands about how they can&#039;t do nothin&#039; about this.

Again, in Virginia, where carrying a gun is almost as important as loving Baby Jesus, second offenders get 1-5, and a third offense will get you up to ten.  When Virginia has tougher gun laws than you, you know that you are fucked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem in DC is that these disputes get settled with guns partly because having a gun in DC will get you no more than a slap on the wrist.  We can moan on and on about MPD (and I&#8217;m not saying we shouldn&#8217;t, they don&#8217;t seem to give a flip about patrolling this neighborhood), but until the price of pool goes up with regards to carrying a firearm in this city, a lot of disputes that would otherwise result in a bunch of yelling, or an occasional beating, will instead result in stray bullets coming into peoples houses.</p>
<p>With the Heller Supreme Court case in the news a few months back there was a lot of lamentation about how this would effect the &#8220;ban&#8221; and no little editorializing in the WaPo about the end of the world, as if it matters a jot to the person carrying an illegal gun in DC  what the law is when they know they&#8217;ll never spend a day in jail if caught with a gun.  The city could go a long way towards curtailing this by simply instituting reasonable sentences for gun possession.</p>
<p>Currently, a 1st time offense is considered a misdemeanor petty offense with a possible maximum punishment of 12 months in jail, but nearly all first offenders go free with time served (a day or two) or probation.  This is similar to a lot of states, and frankly, I don&#8217;t have too much trouble with the first offender (assuming they are really a first offender) getting probation.  Virginia, that bastion of strict gun control, has a similar punishment for first offenders.  What I would like to see is probation terms handed with violators of probation for gun offenses facing a mandatory 90 days in DC jail if they screw up.  It sends a signal, but it also acknowledges that everyone gets one chance to shape up.</p>
<p>Where the DC code, and DC government from Fenty on down, has failed the citizens of DC in a deadly way is how gun crime for repeat offenders is handled.  Or should I say, not handled.  The punishment handed out for repeat offenders, people who have been caught with an illegal weapon at least once before, is, according to DC government, on average less than ZERO months in jail.</p>
<p><a href="http://scdc.dc.gov/acs/frames.asp?doc=/acs/lib/acs/pdf/2006_chapter2.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://scdc.dc.gov/acs/frames.asp?doc=/acs/lib/acs/pdf/2006_chapter2.pdf</a></p>
<p>What?  &#8220;How can that be?&#8221; you&#8217;re saying?  I&#8217;m not entirely sure myself, but if you look at page 6 of the 2006 Report of the DC Sentencing Commission (their &#8216;07 report is missing, and their &#8216;08 report is suspiciously void of any data on sentences), you&#8217;ll see in Figure 2-2 that not only do felony gun offenders get below &#8220;0&#8243; months in prison, the sentences gun offenders receive are lower that &#8220;property&#8221; crimes and drug offenses.</p>
<p>So, between 200-300 serious gun offenders ostensibly get probationary sentences or time served for repeat felony instances of illegally carrying guns.  There is no enhancement for having your third or subsequent felony possession, and even if the judge has a particularly bad hair day the maximum allowed by statute is 5 years.  However, even though DC government is careful not to produce the raw data on these sentences, we can see that if the average is below zero months in prison, and there are usually less than 300 cases, there isn&#8217;t anyone (or hardly anyone) getting the max.</p>
<p>This is pathetic situation.  There needs to be a mandatory sentence for repeat gun offenders in this city.  2nd offense should merit a minimum of 1 year in prison.  This would make an impact.  Time served and a revolving door don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I would like to go to this meeting on Thursday, but I probably cannot attend.  So, I hope that someone might mention this to the city fathers when they start wringing their hands about how they can&#8217;t do nothin&#8217; about this.</p>
<p>Again, in Virginia, where carrying a gun is almost as important as loving Baby Jesus, second offenders get 1-5, and a third offense will get you up to ten.  When Virginia has tougher gun laws than you, you know that you are fucked.</p>
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		<title>By: Neener</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2008/11/pops-ombudsman-responds/#comment-129381</link>
		<dc:creator>Neener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But on the flipside, in the last 4 months I&#039;ve completed 7 home improvement projects with a goal of selling.</description>
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		<title>By: Neener</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2008/11/pops-ombudsman-responds/#comment-129380</link>
		<dc:creator>Neener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have I met with realtors and looked at houses outside of the district during open houses?  yes, about 6.
Do I review home sales in my preferred future neighborhood on a daily or weekly basis?  yes.
Have I reviewed schools in that neighborhood?  yes.
Have I called my realtor about putting my home on the market?  yes.

Does my entire family agree with me?  no.
Do I have enough money saved up to purchase a house before I sell my current house?  no.
Have I met with my bank to discuss what my maximum mortgage number is?  No.
Have I itemized what work needs to be done on my house prior to sale?  No.

Which is to say that I&#039;m about 33% through the process with about 9 months of work ahead of me.  I&#039;m sorry if my personal declarations come off stupid, but selling a house with 10 years worth of accumulation is no easy task.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have I met with realtors and looked at houses outside of the district during open houses?  yes, about 6.<br />
Do I review home sales in my preferred future neighborhood on a daily or weekly basis?  yes.<br />
Have I reviewed schools in that neighborhood?  yes.<br />
Have I called my realtor about putting my home on the market?  yes.</p>
<p>Does my entire family agree with me?  no.<br />
Do I have enough money saved up to purchase a house before I sell my current house?  no.<br />
Have I met with my bank to discuss what my maximum mortgage number is?  No.<br />
Have I itemized what work needs to be done on my house prior to sale?  No.</p>
<p>Which is to say that I&#8217;m about 33% through the process with about 9 months of work ahead of me.  I&#8217;m sorry if my personal declarations come off stupid, but selling a house with 10 years worth of accumulation is no easy task.</p>
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		<title>By: reuben</title>
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		<dc:creator>reuben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neener- are you really going to move? Just curious..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neener- are you really going to move? Just curious..</p>
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		<title>By: HBD</title>
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		<dc:creator>HBD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You didn&#039;t say it was inappropriate; I thought it was inappropriate.

It seemed like the whole point of the post was that people get obsessed with crime when you post about it.  Depending on how you define obsessed, my comment could be deemed obsessive.  I don&#039;t think it is, but I don&#039;t think people get obsessed about crime when you post about it generally.

But this is your blog.  I shouldn&#039;t be posting a comment that shows obsession about crime especially in a post that says that you avoid posting about crime because people become obsessed with it.  That&#039;s my logic.

But if you&#039;re OK with it, I&#039;m OK with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You didn&#8217;t say it was inappropriate; I thought it was inappropriate.</p>
<p>It seemed like the whole point of the post was that people get obsessed with crime when you post about it.  Depending on how you define obsessed, my comment could be deemed obsessive.  I don&#8217;t think it is, but I don&#8217;t think people get obsessed about crime when you post about it generally.</p>
<p>But this is your blog.  I shouldn&#8217;t be posting a comment that shows obsession about crime especially in a post that says that you avoid posting about crime because people become obsessed with it.  That&#8217;s my logic.</p>
<p>But if you&#8217;re OK with it, I&#8217;m OK with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Prince Of Petworth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prince Of Petworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 04:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HBD,

Where in my original post did I say it is an &quot;inappropriate forum to express my (your) disgust with the crime in this area&quot;?

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HBD,</p>
<p>Where in my original post did I say it is an &#8220;inappropriate forum to express my (your) disgust with the crime in this area&#8221;?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: HBD</title>
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		<dc:creator>HBD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 04:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AngryParakeet,

I agree with you, especially based on PoP&#039;s original post, that this is an inappropriate forum to express my disgust with the crime in this area.  You refer to &quot;neighborhood blogs&quot; that are more appropriate to carry these discussions.  Could you be more specific?

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AngryParakeet,</p>
<p>I agree with you, especially based on PoP&#8217;s original post, that this is an inappropriate forum to express my disgust with the crime in this area.  You refer to &#8220;neighborhood blogs&#8221; that are more appropriate to carry these discussions.  Could you be more specific?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: neener</title>
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		<dc:creator>neener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 03:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I know is true:

1.  If we accept violence as acceptable then we are no better than the dirty scum who ruined DC in the 1980s.  I am better than them.

2.  If we obsess over violence at the expense of beauty in the city then we become what we hate most of all and the violence becomes our world.   I am better than that.

So what happens next?  I think what happens next is that I sell my house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I know is true:</p>
<p>1.  If we accept violence as acceptable then we are no better than the dirty scum who ruined DC in the 1980s.  I am better than them.</p>
<p>2.  If we obsess over violence at the expense of beauty in the city then we become what we hate most of all and the violence becomes our world.   I am better than that.</p>
<p>So what happens next?  I think what happens next is that I sell my house.</p>
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		<title>By: AngryParakeet</title>
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		<dc:creator>AngryParakeet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though many comments are well thought-out and aired, such topics &quot;angry up the blood&quot; as Grandpa Simpson put it.  With City Paper and other neighborhood blogs effectively covering the crime thing, a blog with the slogan &quot;Welcome to the Beautiful Life&quot; should let others carry those discussions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though many comments are well thought-out and aired, such topics &#8220;angry up the blood&#8221; as Grandpa Simpson put it.  With City Paper and other neighborhood blogs effectively covering the crime thing, a blog with the slogan &#8220;Welcome to the Beautiful Life&#8221; should let others carry those discussions.</p>
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