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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I see your point.  I agree with the possibility that, as someone who lives east of the park, if the roles were reversed and this was happening in Clevaland Park, the response by law enforcement would be different.

I wonder what can be done if the real issue is police enforcement.  We&#039;ve had two Chief&#039;s of Police within the last 5 years with vastly different styles.  There is a police presence, although we all may disagree on what level is approriate; the police are around.  And finally, there seems to be a will in the neighborhood to fix the problem.

I guess the elusive answer is to the question of how to enforce enforcement, if you will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I see your point.  I agree with the possibility that, as someone who lives east of the park, if the roles were reversed and this was happening in Clevaland Park, the response by law enforcement would be different.</p>
<p>I wonder what can be done if the real issue is police enforcement.  We&#8217;ve had two Chief&#8217;s of Police within the last 5 years with vastly different styles.  There is a police presence, although we all may disagree on what level is approriate; the police are around.  And finally, there seems to be a will in the neighborhood to fix the problem.</p>
<p>I guess the elusive answer is to the question of how to enforce enforcement, if you will.</p>
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		<title>By: HBD</title>
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		<dc:creator>HBD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would not make me any less pissed off if they were selling beer or anything else outside my house.  I am sick of having a nightly block party/bazaar going on in my street with screaming into the wee hours.  It is illegal and conspicuous.  The police&#039;s only function is to enforce the law.  They do not do that in this case even when the illegal activity is obvious and is constantly brought to their attention.  Apparently we have to wait for someone to get shot to get a response.

If the dealers would sell drugs in their house or in a less conspicuous and loud fashion, so that it doesn&#039;t bother everyone in the neighborhood, I would have no problem.  Apparently concern for their neighbors is beneath them.

My problem is not a moral one.  I couldn&#039;t care less what they or others take to get through the day.  I care that my neighbors and I do not matter enough to have a useful police response.  If these morons pulled this shit in Cleveland Park, they would be in prison so fast it would make their heads spin.  Having screaming idiots in front of my house every night also does not make me too happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would not make me any less pissed off if they were selling beer or anything else outside my house.  I am sick of having a nightly block party/bazaar going on in my street with screaming into the wee hours.  It is illegal and conspicuous.  The police&#8217;s only function is to enforce the law.  They do not do that in this case even when the illegal activity is obvious and is constantly brought to their attention.  Apparently we have to wait for someone to get shot to get a response.</p>
<p>If the dealers would sell drugs in their house or in a less conspicuous and loud fashion, so that it doesn&#8217;t bother everyone in the neighborhood, I would have no problem.  Apparently concern for their neighbors is beneath them.</p>
<p>My problem is not a moral one.  I couldn&#8217;t care less what they or others take to get through the day.  I care that my neighbors and I do not matter enough to have a useful police response.  If these morons pulled this shit in Cleveland Park, they would be in prison so fast it would make their heads spin.  Having screaming idiots in front of my house every night also does not make me too happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if some drugs were legalized like alcohol was in the early 19th century?  Re-legalizing alcohol turned a whole lot of criminals into law abiding citizens.

What if we did the same for some substances which are currently considered illegeal?  It would help cut down on the criminal activity and be subject to some level of regulation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if some drugs were legalized like alcohol was in the early 19th century?  Re-legalizing alcohol turned a whole lot of criminals into law abiding citizens.</p>
<p>What if we did the same for some substances which are currently considered illegeal?  It would help cut down on the criminal activity and be subject to some level of regulation.</p>
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		<title>By: HBD</title>
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		<dc:creator>HBD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realize that there are perfectly rational reasons why drug dealers deal drugs.  I also realize that sending someone to jail, especially in DC will not rehabilitate him or her from doing just about anything.  However, mentoring the idiots who deal drugs on my street is also ineffective.  They ignore pretty much everything but threats to call the police (why I have no idea) and to photograph the Maryland and Virginia license plates of their biggest customers.

While mentoring in the DC public schools may or may not help anyone, it certainly will not help in my situation, while police arresting the drug dealers and having them evicted from their property would definitely help my situation.  I doubt it would help theirs, but I do not think that anything would.  Nor do I care to help them if I could.

Being poor and black in DC is extremely tough, but it should not be a blank check justifying any sort of behavior.  Most of my neighbors who are also upset at the lack of response by police to these drug dealers are also poor and black.  They seem to manage not to deal drugs on the street all night just fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize that there are perfectly rational reasons why drug dealers deal drugs.  I also realize that sending someone to jail, especially in DC will not rehabilitate him or her from doing just about anything.  However, mentoring the idiots who deal drugs on my street is also ineffective.  They ignore pretty much everything but threats to call the police (why I have no idea) and to photograph the Maryland and Virginia license plates of their biggest customers.</p>
<p>While mentoring in the DC public schools may or may not help anyone, it certainly will not help in my situation, while police arresting the drug dealers and having them evicted from their property would definitely help my situation.  I doubt it would help theirs, but I do not think that anything would.  Nor do I care to help them if I could.</p>
<p>Being poor and black in DC is extremely tough, but it should not be a blank check justifying any sort of behavior.  Most of my neighbors who are also upset at the lack of response by police to these drug dealers are also poor and black.  They seem to manage not to deal drugs on the street all night just fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I somewhat understand their problems, I come from a relatively similar though not as drastic background. Unfortunately, the world is an imperfect place, and self-protection dictates that either they get incarcerated, eternally if necessary and with opportunities for rehabilitation, or I go somewhere else. Sadly, the latter seems to be the solution. Kumbaya is a great song and all, but won&#039;t stop their bullets from exploding your head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I somewhat understand their problems, I come from a relatively similar though not as drastic background. Unfortunately, the world is an imperfect place, and self-protection dictates that either they get incarcerated, eternally if necessary and with opportunities for rehabilitation, or I go somewhere else. Sadly, the latter seems to be the solution. Kumbaya is a great song and all, but won&#8217;t stop their bullets from exploding your head.</p>
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		<title>By: AlBe</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlBe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arresting these kids and keeping them in jail will not work. If any of you have spent time in DC jail you will know that it is practically a crash course on the best places to buy/sell drugs in DC. You learn about what streets are best for what drugs at what times of the day and what places to avoid.

Have you ever considered what it would be like living in an arrangement like they have?
They come home to their mom who is probably hooked on drugs or alcohol… their apartment is probably old and poorly lit… they get yelled at all the time by their family and they think they are worthless.

They don’t see that they have other options in life because after a decade and a half or more of being considered a hopeless case they have come to accept their fate.

If anyone wants to do anything about this problem I’d say start volunteering in the DC public schools and offering these kids hopes and dreams at a young age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arresting these kids and keeping them in jail will not work. If any of you have spent time in DC jail you will know that it is practically a crash course on the best places to buy/sell drugs in DC. You learn about what streets are best for what drugs at what times of the day and what places to avoid.</p>
<p>Have you ever considered what it would be like living in an arrangement like they have?<br />
They come home to their mom who is probably hooked on drugs or alcohol… their apartment is probably old and poorly lit… they get yelled at all the time by their family and they think they are worthless.</p>
<p>They don’t see that they have other options in life because after a decade and a half or more of being considered a hopeless case they have come to accept their fate.</p>
<p>If anyone wants to do anything about this problem I’d say start volunteering in the DC public schools and offering these kids hopes and dreams at a young age.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder about a meta-conspiracy whereby large housing corporations &#039;contribute&#039; to ANC members in order to secure Section 8 and similar gov&#039;t funded housing complexes in poor areas. Then, those S8 complexes become drug havens, and ANC members refuse to push police to arrest and detain people, lest it interfere with the S8 harmony (and profit). Any takers?

For my part, I see MPD arresting a fair number of people, but there&#039;s no incarceration beyond a couple hours, and certainly no long-term counter-dealer operations. I no longer simply blame MPD, but rather ANCs, and our lack of congressional vote, which means that the larger law enforcement agencies like FBI and US Marshals don&#039;t consider us important. DC is thus a haven for multi-jurisdictional criminals, who in other parts of the country (ie states) are pursued with great zeal.

Also, I see MPD as woefully understaffed. They have about 3500 officers if I&#039;m not mistaken. Which broken into three shifts and a certain amount of administrative and jail-tending leaves paltry few on the streets. Don&#039;t even talk to me about the Federal law enforcement guys, they are security guards at best who seem to only shoot homeless every now and then. Again, this is an ANC and Mayoral issue. The folks who built us a baseball stadium. Twits.

If anyone has the Bat-Signal, throw it up!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder about a meta-conspiracy whereby large housing corporations &#8216;contribute&#8217; to ANC members in order to secure Section 8 and similar gov&#8217;t funded housing complexes in poor areas. Then, those S8 complexes become drug havens, and ANC members refuse to push police to arrest and detain people, lest it interfere with the S8 harmony (and profit). Any takers?</p>
<p>For my part, I see MPD arresting a fair number of people, but there&#8217;s no incarceration beyond a couple hours, and certainly no long-term counter-dealer operations. I no longer simply blame MPD, but rather ANCs, and our lack of congressional vote, which means that the larger law enforcement agencies like FBI and US Marshals don&#8217;t consider us important. DC is thus a haven for multi-jurisdictional criminals, who in other parts of the country (ie states) are pursued with great zeal.</p>
<p>Also, I see MPD as woefully understaffed. They have about 3500 officers if I&#8217;m not mistaken. Which broken into three shifts and a certain amount of administrative and jail-tending leaves paltry few on the streets. Don&#8217;t even talk to me about the Federal law enforcement guys, they are security guards at best who seem to only shoot homeless every now and then. Again, this is an ANC and Mayoral issue. The folks who built us a baseball stadium. Twits.</p>
<p>If anyone has the Bat-Signal, throw it up!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: PetworthRes</title>
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		<dc:creator>PetworthRes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The drug dealers on my street were evicted from their house, and now there aren&#039;t any drug dealers on my street. On the next block the drug dealers lost their house when it got sold, and now a family lives there.

I realize of course they are just selling drugs somewhere else, but if keeping them in jail doesn&#039;t work, then I am happy to have them leave my neighborhood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The drug dealers on my street were evicted from their house, and now there aren&#8217;t any drug dealers on my street. On the next block the drug dealers lost their house when it got sold, and now a family lives there.</p>
<p>I realize of course they are just selling drugs somewhere else, but if keeping them in jail doesn&#8217;t work, then I am happy to have them leave my neighborhood.</p>
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		<title>By: HBD</title>
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		<dc:creator>HBD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that someone somewhere will always deal drugs if there is money to be made.  Everywhere I have lived, there have been drug dealers.  What there hasn&#039;t been is people doing it repeatedly, in the same place, out in the open, with the police not caring at all.

My situation is specific, but if the dealers in my neighborhood were arrested and they lost the house they live in, there would be a significant drop in drug dealing on my street.  The market they serve would undoubtedly be served by another dealer, but it is extremely unlikely that they would deal on my street.

This may not not reduce drug dealing in Columbia Heights as a whole, but it certainly would not cause it to grow.   Like you said, all you can do is separate yourself from the people causing the crime and blight.  I do not expect any of them to undergo a conversion.  Frankly, I don&#039;t care what they do as long as they do it far away from my house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that someone somewhere will always deal drugs if there is money to be made.  Everywhere I have lived, there have been drug dealers.  What there hasn&#8217;t been is people doing it repeatedly, in the same place, out in the open, with the police not caring at all.</p>
<p>My situation is specific, but if the dealers in my neighborhood were arrested and they lost the house they live in, there would be a significant drop in drug dealing on my street.  The market they serve would undoubtedly be served by another dealer, but it is extremely unlikely that they would deal on my street.</p>
<p>This may not not reduce drug dealing in Columbia Heights as a whole, but it certainly would not cause it to grow.   Like you said, all you can do is separate yourself from the people causing the crime and blight.  I do not expect any of them to undergo a conversion.  Frankly, I don&#8217;t care what they do as long as they do it far away from my house.</p>
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		<title>By: CB</title>
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		<dc:creator>CB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos to Jeff Green for putting his platform out there on the Web.  Now, I&#039;m looking at who to vote for in the 4C05 SMD race (Andy Tuck vs Joseph Vaughan).  Nothing, nada, zero out there on the web.

I guess I&#039;ll have to get off my ass and go visit them.  Doesn&#039;t it usually work the other way &#039;round?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos to Jeff Green for putting his platform out there on the Web.  Now, I&#8217;m looking at who to vote for in the 4C05 SMD race (Andy Tuck vs Joseph Vaughan).  Nothing, nada, zero out there on the web.</p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;ll have to get off my ass and go visit them.  Doesn&#8217;t it usually work the other way &#8217;round?</p>
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