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		<title>By: CP Truth</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/04/i-still-love-you-cleveland-park/#comment-14400</link>
		<dc:creator>CP Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“It’s a matter of the majority of the residents finally getting fed up with the actions of a few and speaking up and voting (Mary Cheh ran an explicit pro-development campaign).”

That’s an urban myth.  It may be what Cheh and the Cheh Cadres say now, but that’s not what she said a few days before her election.  So she’s either going senile or she’s lying.  See what she posted on the Cleveland Park list serve in November 2006 when the issue of her being too close to developers was raised.  She responded that she would consider added density only at Metro stops (the Giant PUD is over a mile from the closest station) and “fully supported” historic and commercial overlays!  Explicit pro-development campaign?  Puhleeze.

“I want to thank all of the listserve contributors for raising important issues
as the political season comes into the home stretch. I once again invite residents to visit my web site and contact me, as many of you have, if they need more information.

As far as questions about particular development projects are concerned, a
councilmember does not have the authority to approve or disapprove of proposals
or the details of proposals. Rather the process is either matter-of-right (with builder
co- operation with the community hopefully but not necessarily forthcoming) or one
that requires zoning approval (e.g., PUD). In that case the builder has to meet
conditions which arise from community concerns, ANC input, or zoning demands. Obviously not all development is good and not all plans make sense, and, even though I would have no decision-making authority with respect to particular developments, I would try to be helpful in seeing that projects fit the neighborhood, serve the common good, and are pursued in a way least disruptive to all concerned.

My view of development overall, i.e., across the City, is that we should preserve our unique neighborhoods and encourage lively mixed residential-retail along the corridors. For Ward 3, the main corridors of Connecticut and Wisconsin are already developed and/or have zoning overlays, such as historic and commercial overlays, which I fully support. But there is a segment in Tenleytown and Friendship Heights, positioned as it is along the subway,
which offers an opportunity for enhanced retail and residential development
(complete with the infra structure to support it, as well as amenities such as green
design, affordable housing units, etc.) which would serve the public good and give residents the
lively, walkable city scape they want and deserve. My hope is that the community as a
whole and the planning and zoning agencies can develop a small area plan that will
invigorate this area.....again, that is my hope, but the decisions must arise from the
community....the councilmember has no direct role, but can serve to bring residents and
government together to forge consensus.

…
Thanks,
Mary M. Cheh
Democrat for Ward 3, DC Council”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“It’s a matter of the majority of the residents finally getting fed up with the actions of a few and speaking up and voting (Mary Cheh ran an explicit pro-development campaign).”</p>
<p>That’s an urban myth.  It may be what Cheh and the Cheh Cadres say now, but that’s not what she said a few days before her election.  So she’s either going senile or she’s lying.  See what she posted on the Cleveland Park list serve in November 2006 when the issue of her being too close to developers was raised.  She responded that she would consider added density only at Metro stops (the Giant PUD is over a mile from the closest station) and “fully supported” historic and commercial overlays!  Explicit pro-development campaign?  Puhleeze.</p>
<p>“I want to thank all of the listserve contributors for raising important issues<br />
as the political season comes into the home stretch. I once again invite residents to visit my web site and contact me, as many of you have, if they need more information.</p>
<p>As far as questions about particular development projects are concerned, a<br />
councilmember does not have the authority to approve or disapprove of proposals<br />
or the details of proposals. Rather the process is either matter-of-right (with builder<br />
co- operation with the community hopefully but not necessarily forthcoming) or one<br />
that requires zoning approval (e.g., PUD). In that case the builder has to meet<br />
conditions which arise from community concerns, ANC input, or zoning demands. Obviously not all development is good and not all plans make sense, and, even though I would have no decision-making authority with respect to particular developments, I would try to be helpful in seeing that projects fit the neighborhood, serve the common good, and are pursued in a way least disruptive to all concerned.</p>
<p>My view of development overall, i.e., across the City, is that we should preserve our unique neighborhoods and encourage lively mixed residential-retail along the corridors. For Ward 3, the main corridors of Connecticut and Wisconsin are already developed and/or have zoning overlays, such as historic and commercial overlays, which I fully support. But there is a segment in Tenleytown and Friendship Heights, positioned as it is along the subway,<br />
which offers an opportunity for enhanced retail and residential development<br />
(complete with the infra structure to support it, as well as amenities such as green<br />
design, affordable housing units, etc.) which would serve the public good and give residents the<br />
lively, walkable city scape they want and deserve. My hope is that the community as a<br />
whole and the planning and zoning agencies can develop a small area plan that will<br />
invigorate this area&#8230;..again, that is my hope, but the decisions must arise from the<br />
community&#8230;.the councilmember has no direct role, but can serve to bring residents and<br />
government together to forge consensus.</p>
<p>…<br />
Thanks,<br />
Mary M. Cheh<br />
Democrat for Ward 3, DC Council”</p>
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		<title>By: CP Truth</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/04/i-still-love-you-cleveland-park/#comment-14399</link>
		<dc:creator>CP Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lost in the focus about the Giant is another theme in the Cleveland Park Citizens Association contest for control:  payback.  One of the organizers of the self-described “coup” at CPCA is the &quot;partner&quot; of Geoff Griffis, the controversial former chairman of the Board of Zoning Adjustment.  The current CPCA leadership opposed Griffis’ nomination to the Zoning Commission, citing conflict of interest and other, uh, conduct allegations relating to Griffis’ stormy tenure at BZA.  Griffis and his partner may now see an opportunity for possible payback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lost in the focus about the Giant is another theme in the Cleveland Park Citizens Association contest for control:  payback.  One of the organizers of the self-described “coup” at CPCA is the &#8220;partner&#8221; of Geoff Griffis, the controversial former chairman of the Board of Zoning Adjustment.  The current CPCA leadership opposed Griffis’ nomination to the Zoning Commission, citing conflict of interest and other, uh, conduct allegations relating to Griffis’ stormy tenure at BZA.  Griffis and his partner may now see an opportunity for possible payback.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/04/i-still-love-you-cleveland-park/#comment-14398</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 12:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The local &quot;citizen&#039;s association&quot; is a big part of the problem. CPCA has delayed the building of a renovated Giant on MaComb and Wisconsin for literally a decade, leaving an entire city block of boarded up shopfonts stuck in the melee. The zoning overlay is indeed very restrictive of restaurants (whic, when permitted to open, thrive on the Connecticut Avenue strip by the Metro Stop). The CPCA was one of the key players in holding up Indique&#039;s liquor license for months and months on end. Like most neighborhoods, the CPCA has dominated the neighborhood at zoning meetings and hearings.

Dozens of neighbors recently joined CPCA, annoyed at the store closings and aggravated over continued delays in the Giant project. CPCA, sensing change in the air, canceled their yearly officer&#039;s election, as well as their annual summer meeting cashing the checks of new members all the while denying them a vote. The Washington Post&#039;s Raw Fisher hammered the CPCA in one of his posts last week.

Citizen&#039;s Associations can be a massive impediment to healthy retail and smart growth, if, as is the case in Cleveland Park, new owners face the one-two punch of an overly restrictive overlay for an urban zone AND a citizen&#039;s group with a very small but noisy following that will nitpick an application for a new business to death. Small businesses will simply find somewhere else to go because they can&#039;t afford to wait (literally) years for the zoning/nimby issues to iron out.

Cleveland Park&#039;s unemployment rate is exceptionally low--less than 3%, and median incomes are quite high. This isn&#039;t the &quot;economy stupid&quot; it&#039;s a small number of &quot;stupid neighbors.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The local &#8220;citizen&#8217;s association&#8221; is a big part of the problem. CPCA has delayed the building of a renovated Giant on MaComb and Wisconsin for literally a decade, leaving an entire city block of boarded up shopfonts stuck in the melee. The zoning overlay is indeed very restrictive of restaurants (whic, when permitted to open, thrive on the Connecticut Avenue strip by the Metro Stop). The CPCA was one of the key players in holding up Indique&#8217;s liquor license for months and months on end. Like most neighborhoods, the CPCA has dominated the neighborhood at zoning meetings and hearings.</p>
<p>Dozens of neighbors recently joined CPCA, annoyed at the store closings and aggravated over continued delays in the Giant project. CPCA, sensing change in the air, canceled their yearly officer&#8217;s election, as well as their annual summer meeting cashing the checks of new members all the while denying them a vote. The Washington Post&#8217;s Raw Fisher hammered the CPCA in one of his posts last week.</p>
<p>Citizen&#8217;s Associations can be a massive impediment to healthy retail and smart growth, if, as is the case in Cleveland Park, new owners face the one-two punch of an overly restrictive overlay for an urban zone AND a citizen&#8217;s group with a very small but noisy following that will nitpick an application for a new business to death. Small businesses will simply find somewhere else to go because they can&#8217;t afford to wait (literally) years for the zoning/nimby issues to iron out.</p>
<p>Cleveland Park&#8217;s unemployment rate is exceptionally low&#8211;less than 3%, and median incomes are quite high. This isn&#8217;t the &#8220;economy stupid&#8221; it&#8217;s a small number of &#8220;stupid neighbors.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Chloe</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/04/i-still-love-you-cleveland-park/#comment-14397</link>
		<dc:creator>Chloe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though I&#039;ve lived in Petworth for a good long while, there&#039;s really nothing here for me to buy. The Safeway is ghastly and incedibly ghetto, there&#039;s no bank, there&#039;s nothing here for me, but my house and parking space near my house. So of course I have to travel. CP is right across the park, right off Rock Creek Park and up Klingle Street which becomes Porter. I love little over-priced Brookville Market, the little self-serve Suntrust, even Yes, Market and the cute but weird gift shop near the movie theater. CP is really white people&#039;s heaven, and like reuben, I&#039;m so aware of the racial polarization of this city. But still I like my nice shops. So is Mcgruder&#039;s closing (I really wasn&#039;t a fan).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though I&#8217;ve lived in Petworth for a good long while, there&#8217;s really nothing here for me to buy. The Safeway is ghastly and incedibly ghetto, there&#8217;s no bank, there&#8217;s nothing here for me, but my house and parking space near my house. So of course I have to travel. CP is right across the park, right off Rock Creek Park and up Klingle Street which becomes Porter. I love little over-priced Brookville Market, the little self-serve Suntrust, even Yes, Market and the cute but weird gift shop near the movie theater. CP is really white people&#8217;s heaven, and like reuben, I&#8217;m so aware of the racial polarization of this city. But still I like my nice shops. So is Mcgruder&#8217;s closing (I really wasn&#8217;t a fan).</p>
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		<title>By: Serena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Serena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is sad to see some empty storefronts right now, I hope at least some is due simply to the economy and crazy landlords who will eventually come to their senses.

@CP: I&#039;ve lived in and around the area since 1994 and I am totally skeptical when people keep raising this issue of certain changes affecting property values, quality of life etc. I remember the hand wringing when Macgruder&#039;s opened (and knew many people who feared the Starbucks as well); they&#039;re &quot;chain&quot; stores, will ruin the neighborhood character, will drive out local competitors. But they&#039;re practically neighborhood institutions now and certainly people are unhappy that they&#039;ll soon be gone.

I just don&#039;t think there is very much anyone or anything can do to make CP an UNdesirable place to live. Even Van Ness and the Wisconsin Ave corridor (where I live), with our grim and semi-useful retail options, have remained very nice (and increasingly expensive!) residential neighborhoods.

If anything the problem I see is that it&#039;s become almost unaffordable. If I hadn&#039;t bought my condo 10 years ago, no way I could buy even a small place here now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is sad to see some empty storefronts right now, I hope at least some is due simply to the economy and crazy landlords who will eventually come to their senses.</p>
<p>@CP: I&#8217;ve lived in and around the area since 1994 and I am totally skeptical when people keep raising this issue of certain changes affecting property values, quality of life etc. I remember the hand wringing when Macgruder&#8217;s opened (and knew many people who feared the Starbucks as well); they&#8217;re &#8220;chain&#8221; stores, will ruin the neighborhood character, will drive out local competitors. But they&#8217;re practically neighborhood institutions now and certainly people are unhappy that they&#8217;ll soon be gone.</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t think there is very much anyone or anything can do to make CP an UNdesirable place to live. Even Van Ness and the Wisconsin Ave corridor (where I live), with our grim and semi-useful retail options, have remained very nice (and increasingly expensive!) residential neighborhoods.</p>
<p>If anything the problem I see is that it&#8217;s become almost unaffordable. If I hadn&#8217;t bought my condo 10 years ago, no way I could buy even a small place here now.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 20:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would call it more like a slight and very gradual elevation change.  bordering on unoticable. but yes.  a fat tourist may see it differently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would call it more like a slight and very gradual elevation change.  bordering on unoticable. but yes.  a fat tourist may see it differently.</p>
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		<title>By: Rukasu</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/04/i-still-love-you-cleveland-park/#comment-14394</link>
		<dc:creator>Rukasu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@anonymous3:37: I personally don&#039;t think it&#039;s steep, but ask a fat tourist in July on a 95 degree day.

Elevation of...
Woodley Park Metro: 165ft
CP Metro: 212ft
Zoo Entrance: 223ft</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@anonymous3:37: I personally don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s steep, but ask a fat tourist in July on a 95 degree day.</p>
<p>Elevation of&#8230;<br />
Woodley Park Metro: 165ft<br />
CP Metro: 212ft<br />
Zoo Entrance: 223ft</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rukasu-  your definition of &quot;steep hill&quot; does not match mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rukasu-  your definition of &#8220;steep hill&#8221; does not match mine.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The consignment shop apparently picked up and left because it&#039;s his business model to do so;  there was an article in the City Paper about the guy in Ocotber.  he ran off without returning consignment items (or paying the owners) and reopened elsewhere a few months later.  and he came to CP after doing the same at another location.
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/tag/washington-consignment/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The consignment shop apparently picked up and left because it&#8217;s his business model to do so;  there was an article in the City Paper about the guy in Ocotber.  he ran off without returning consignment items (or paying the owners) and reopened elsewhere a few months later.  and he came to CP after doing the same at another location.<br />
<a href="http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/tag/washington-consignment/" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/tag/washington-consignment/</a></p>
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		<title>By: reuben</title>
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		<dc:creator>reuben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve said it before, but if I were planning to spend the rest of my life in DC-I&#039;d deal with the racial isolation (which, yes, exists in segregated cities like this one)-and head &#039;cross the park myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve said it before, but if I were planning to spend the rest of my life in DC-I&#8217;d deal with the racial isolation (which, yes, exists in segregated cities like this one)-and head &#8216;cross the park myself.</p>
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