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	<title>Comments on: Dear PoP &#8211; Horse&#8217;s Ass Award Nomination &#8211; Fences at Meridian/Malcolm X Park</title>
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		<title>By: Park Resident</title>
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		<dc:creator>Park Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess some people who don&#039;t get it, never will. Grass in a park is not just for looking at. It is for all purposes, for recreation, play and leisure. In case you are still new to our community, this neighborhood is filled with soccer enthusiasts. So if there is a grass area available, the soccer folks are coming out to play, and they will play until dark (not at dark). Too bad for you naysayers. For those that do not know the history of this area, before the new millennium, the park was filled with mainly non-White soccer players. That&#039;s why I can claim racism. So now that the area is more diverse, that will not prevent the soccer players on the grass...albeit the police might. In any case, there is a long stretch of grass in the park, and some will be used for sport, and other parts for leisure. I just hope we don&#039;t see any gay softball or frisbee catching on. More seriously, I am more concerned for the kids. Where do you see the neighborhood kids playing sport? There is no green space for them and maybe that is why we see too much crime and violence among our youth. They have no outlet to express themselves and both DC Rec and National Parks are to blame. Parks like Meridian should be filled with kids playing, not just adults. It&#039;s time people figured that out before they argue for more space for their pets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess some people who don&#8217;t get it, never will. Grass in a park is not just for looking at. It is for all purposes, for recreation, play and leisure. In case you are still new to our community, this neighborhood is filled with soccer enthusiasts. So if there is a grass area available, the soccer folks are coming out to play, and they will play until dark (not at dark). Too bad for you naysayers. For those that do not know the history of this area, before the new millennium, the park was filled with mainly non-White soccer players. That&#8217;s why I can claim racism. So now that the area is more diverse, that will not prevent the soccer players on the grass&#8230;albeit the police might. In any case, there is a long stretch of grass in the park, and some will be used for sport, and other parts for leisure. I just hope we don&#8217;t see any gay softball or frisbee catching on. More seriously, I am more concerned for the kids. Where do you see the neighborhood kids playing sport? There is no green space for them and maybe that is why we see too much crime and violence among our youth. They have no outlet to express themselves and both DC Rec and National Parks are to blame. Parks like Meridian should be filled with kids playing, not just adults. It&#8217;s time people figured that out before they argue for more space for their pets.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anonymous at 3:15 --you might want check out a community college horticulture class before the time you want to spout off about plants.  Over or underwatering can stress many plants, and grass sod is one of them.  add a hundred cleated feet on top of a poorly managed field of sod and you get Pierce Park, AKA Sahara DC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anonymous at 3:15 &#8211;you might want check out a community college horticulture class before the time you want to spout off about plants.  Over or underwatering can stress many plants, and grass sod is one of them.  add a hundred cleated feet on top of a poorly managed field of sod and you get Pierce Park, AKA Sahara DC.</p>
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		<title>By: brookiedc</title>
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		<dc:creator>brookiedc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pierce Park (Adam&#039;s Morgan, behind bus depot?) has a dedicated soccer field.  Does Meridian?  Or are the now fenced-off fields for a specific purpose?  Pierce seems to have several distinct and dedicated purposes.  Dog park, playground, soccer, basketball.  And community garden.

In my experience, the people using the field at Pierce have all been members of some sort of league, not pick-up players.  Kickball leagues, soccer teams playing with uniforms (most of the time).  And yes, the new grass at Pierce wasn&#039;t in place more than a few months before they let people on it.  It died very quickly.  Let&#039;s be patient with the Meridian grass and let it root.

That way, we can take our golf clubs up there and practice our short game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pierce Park (Adam&#8217;s Morgan, behind bus depot?) has a dedicated soccer field.  Does Meridian?  Or are the now fenced-off fields for a specific purpose?  Pierce seems to have several distinct and dedicated purposes.  Dog park, playground, soccer, basketball.  And community garden.</p>
<p>In my experience, the people using the field at Pierce have all been members of some sort of league, not pick-up players.  Kickball leagues, soccer teams playing with uniforms (most of the time).  And yes, the new grass at Pierce wasn&#8217;t in place more than a few months before they let people on it.  It died very quickly.  Let&#8217;s be patient with the Meridian grass and let it root.</p>
<p>That way, we can take our golf clubs up there and practice our short game.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting point hidden in here about the free-riding of for-profit organized sports leagues.  Would greatly prefer to see DC Parks &amp; Rec institute a more rigorous field reservation system than to continue to have the tragedy of the commons that emerges when no one has incentive to limit their use.  The only result from that situation is overuse and depletion of the community resource, which has happened before this renovation in Meridian Hill and continues to happen all over town.

And let&#039;s be practical here -- two friends tossing a football/frisbee/softball or kicking around a soccer ball on the green is vastly different than 7-a-side all-afternoon games with cleats in terms of wear &amp; tear on the space.  Even when the fences go down, I hope that the latter is not allowed.  Steve is spot on by identifying the purpose of this park.  It&#039;s clear in the design.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting point hidden in here about the free-riding of for-profit organized sports leagues.  Would greatly prefer to see DC Parks &amp; Rec institute a more rigorous field reservation system than to continue to have the tragedy of the commons that emerges when no one has incentive to limit their use.  The only result from that situation is overuse and depletion of the community resource, which has happened before this renovation in Meridian Hill and continues to happen all over town.</p>
<p>And let&#8217;s be practical here &#8212; two friends tossing a football/frisbee/softball or kicking around a soccer ball on the green is vastly different than 7-a-side all-afternoon games with cleats in terms of wear &amp; tear on the space.  Even when the fences go down, I hope that the latter is not allowed.  Steve is spot on by identifying the purpose of this park.  It&#8217;s clear in the design.</p>
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		<title>By: eric in ledroit</title>
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		<dc:creator>eric in ledroit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anon 3:15, it&#039;s not the people, it&#039;s the design of the grass.  again read the article about central park!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anon 3:15, it&#8217;s not the people, it&#8217;s the design of the grass.  again read the article about central park!!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, I think I found a use for the Armed Forces Retirement Home!  Bocce ball!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, I think I found a use for the Armed Forces Retirement Home!  Bocce ball!</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, DC mom said no watering was destroying the grass, now Jim claims flooding the fields destroyed the grass.

Give it up people, it isn&#039;t water or winter or even dry summers that destroys grass.  Grass roots will survive all of those and come back the next year, if it is left completely alone.  Fields all around the world in every kind of place from forests to cities are left to the whims of mother nature.  And survive.

It isn&#039;t the amount of water that kills the grass.  It is the people on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, DC mom said no watering was destroying the grass, now Jim claims flooding the fields destroyed the grass.</p>
<p>Give it up people, it isn&#8217;t water or winter or even dry summers that destroys grass.  Grass roots will survive all of those and come back the next year, if it is left completely alone.  Fields all around the world in every kind of place from forests to cities are left to the whims of mother nature.  And survive.</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t the amount of water that kills the grass.  It is the people on it.</p>
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		<title>By: not telling</title>
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		<dc:creator>not telling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, yeah, Park Resident&#039;s comments seem just bizarre to me.

Plenty of people play soccer, not just &#039;foreign immigrants.&#039;  Nor are all said foreign immigrants of a different race.  Nor are the fences solely to prevent soccer.  They also prevent frisbee throwing and bocce ball and many other things, enjoyed by people of all races and nationalities.

I do think we could use some more soccer fields in town and less baseball fields.  The baseball diamonds in DCPR&#039;s roster seem a bit disproportionate given the overall park space.

But that doesn&#039;t mean that every place with grass has to become a soccer field.  Even with all the fences down, Meridian Hill is not large enough, nor landscaped for the sport.  It is intended to be a English-style formal garden, which has a useful place in our society.

And I find the claim that soccer players are going to stage some sort of all-night sit-in when the fences come down to be pretty dubious.  Even without a police substation, the park is closed at night and patrolled.  There will be no all-night games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, yeah, Park Resident&#8217;s comments seem just bizarre to me.</p>
<p>Plenty of people play soccer, not just &#8216;foreign immigrants.&#8217;  Nor are all said foreign immigrants of a different race.  Nor are the fences solely to prevent soccer.  They also prevent frisbee throwing and bocce ball and many other things, enjoyed by people of all races and nationalities.</p>
<p>I do think we could use some more soccer fields in town and less baseball fields.  The baseball diamonds in DCPR&#8217;s roster seem a bit disproportionate given the overall park space.</p>
<p>But that doesn&#8217;t mean that every place with grass has to become a soccer field.  Even with all the fences down, Meridian Hill is not large enough, nor landscaped for the sport.  It is intended to be a English-style formal garden, which has a useful place in our society.</p>
<p>And I find the claim that soccer players are going to stage some sort of all-night sit-in when the fences come down to be pretty dubious.  Even without a police substation, the park is closed at night and patrolled.  There will be no all-night games.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DC Mom is right--look at Pierce Park at the east end of the Duke Ellington Bridge.  I used to cut across that park daily to walk to the metro when i lived in Adams Morgan.  The city came in and resodded that field, erected a fence, and then proceeded to FLOOD the field with water for literally 6-8 months.  Water running off that field froze into an impressive ice sculpture that winter, making crossing the paths there treacherous.  at the end of the year, the fences came down, and within 90 days, the park was a dustbowl, without a blade of grass on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DC Mom is right&#8211;look at Pierce Park at the east end of the Duke Ellington Bridge.  I used to cut across that park daily to walk to the metro when i lived in Adams Morgan.  The city came in and resodded that field, erected a fence, and then proceeded to FLOOD the field with water for literally 6-8 months.  Water running off that field froze into an impressive ice sculpture that winter, making crossing the paths there treacherous.  at the end of the year, the fences came down, and within 90 days, the park was a dustbowl, without a blade of grass on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Park Resident &quot;Maicious and racist?&quot;  Pretty strong charges.  Different parks have different civic purposes.  Some are for athletics some are for aesthetics.  Not every sward of green grass should be used as a playing surface.  I would agree that the city needs athletic fields for soccer, ultimate, touch football, kickball, what ever.  I am just saying Meridian Park was not designed for it and given the investment in improvements, probably not the best venue.  I would further suggest that that lets see how the Park Police responds, since they will have a substation in the park.  The Park service has restricted use on the Mall.  They will probably do so here as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Park Resident &#8220;Maicious and racist?&#8221;  Pretty strong charges.  Different parks have different civic purposes.  Some are for athletics some are for aesthetics.  Not every sward of green grass should be used as a playing surface.  I would agree that the city needs athletic fields for soccer, ultimate, touch football, kickball, what ever.  I am just saying Meridian Park was not designed for it and given the investment in improvements, probably not the best venue.  I would further suggest that that lets see how the Park Police responds, since they will have a substation in the park.  The Park service has restricted use on the Mall.  They will probably do so here as well.</p>
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