Comments on: Friday Question of the Day – What’s Up With the DC Summer Jobs Program? http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/06/friday-question-of-the-day-whats-up-with-the-dc-summer-jobs-program/ Welcome to the beautiful life Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:21:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Pennywise http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/06/friday-question-of-the-day-whats-up-with-the-dc-summer-jobs-program/#comment-27959 Pennywise Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:46:11 +0000 http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/06/friday-question-of-the-day-whats-up-with-the-dc-summer-jobs-program/#comment-27959 Anyone else wanna restart this thread? I realized yesterday that my upper Georgia area was rather quiet of late, and the mini-thugs that are usually active in my block are nowhere to be seen. I suspect many of these kids / adult-boys who usually bug the hell out of me are causing trouble elsewhere with the DC summer jobs program. While I feel sorry for whoever has to deal with them, I am grateful for their absence. I also believe that though the jobs program is massively expensive and likely to go wayyyy over budget as always, its cheaper than police and DYRS chasing them around all summer. Any comments? Anyone else wanna restart this thread? I realized yesterday that my upper Georgia area was rather quiet of late, and the mini-thugs that are usually active in my block are nowhere to be seen. I suspect many of these kids / adult-boys who usually bug the hell out of me are causing trouble elsewhere with the DC summer jobs program. While I feel sorry for whoever has to deal with them, I am grateful for their absence. I also believe that though the jobs program is massively expensive and likely to go wayyyy over budget as always, its cheaper than police and DYRS chasing them around all summer. Any comments?

]]> By: ibc http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/06/friday-question-of-the-day-whats-up-with-the-dc-summer-jobs-program/#comment-27958 ibc Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:28:16 +0000 http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/06/friday-question-of-the-day-whats-up-with-the-dc-summer-jobs-program/#comment-27958 <i>Most punks will be punks no matter what you do or where you warehouse them. The least DC could do is not pay them and keep them away from kids who actually could benefit from the program.</i> Yeah, sometimes the simplest explanations are the "right" ones. In a culture of complete and total clusterfuckery, often the institutions serving that culture will be complete clustfucks. This is the reason that it's much easier to have a successful, say, public school in McLean than it is in Anacostia; why the DMV in Gaithersburg is often more pleasant than the one in Brentwood; and why ATM lines in Canada are more pleasant than ones in the US. I don't care who's running the "Summer Youth Jobs Orientation", if there's a non-trivial number of the attendees who are bringing brass knuckles and handguns, there's a pretty good chance it will be a shit-show of epic proportions. When gentrification turns DC into an upper-middle-class enclave in the next decade or two, you'll be surprised and delighted at how smoothly everything works! Most punks will be punks no matter what you do or where you warehouse them. The least DC could do is not pay them and keep them away from kids who actually could benefit from the program.

Yeah, sometimes the simplest explanations are the “right” ones. In a culture of complete and total clusterfuckery, often the institutions serving that culture will be complete clustfucks.

This is the reason that it’s much easier to have a successful, say, public school in McLean than it is in Anacostia; why the DMV in Gaithersburg is often more pleasant than the one in Brentwood; and why ATM lines in Canada are more pleasant than ones in the US.

I don’t care who’s running the “Summer Youth Jobs Orientation”, if there’s a non-trivial number of the attendees who are bringing brass knuckles and handguns, there’s a pretty good chance it will be a shit-show of epic proportions.

When gentrification turns DC into an upper-middle-class enclave in the next decade or two, you’ll be surprised and delighted at how smoothly everything works!

]]> By: Boomhauer http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/06/friday-question-of-the-day-whats-up-with-the-dc-summer-jobs-program/#comment-27957 Boomhauer Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:02:24 +0000 http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/06/friday-question-of-the-day-whats-up-with-the-dc-summer-jobs-program/#comment-27957 Pennywise: "If found outside an assault, my guess is they count as jewelry. Please do prove me wrong, I could use the lift Pennywise:

“If found outside an assault, my guess is they count as jewelry. Please do prove me wrong, I could use the lift

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/06/friday-question-of-the-day-whats-up-with-the-dc-summer-jobs-program/#comment-27956 Anonymous Sat, 20 Jun 2009 11:36:47 +0000 http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/06/friday-question-of-the-day-whats-up-with-the-dc-summer-jobs-program/#comment-27956 Many of you recommended designing programs for youth to clean-up neighborhoods. The Mayor's Conservation Corps (part of the Summer Youth Employment Program) is doing just that. Please contact mayorsconservationcorps@dc.gov for more information. For the parent who wrote in above about conflicting information on their child's work site, please contact MCC as well and they can help sort out where your child is assigned. Many of you recommended designing programs for youth to clean-up neighborhoods. The Mayor’s Conservation Corps (part of the Summer Youth Employment Program) is doing just that. Please contact mayorsconservationcorps@dc.gov for more information.

For the parent who wrote in above about conflicting information on their child’s work site, please contact MCC as well and they can help sort out where your child is assigned.

]]> By: Nichole http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/06/friday-question-of-the-day-whats-up-with-the-dc-summer-jobs-program/#comment-27955 Nichole Sat, 20 Jun 2009 02:47:47 +0000 http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/06/friday-question-of-the-day-whats-up-with-the-dc-summer-jobs-program/#comment-27955 Apparently the shooter was an intern in Jim Graham's office: http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Councilmans-Intern-Shoots-Up-His-Ward.html Apparently the shooter was an intern in Jim Graham’s office: http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Councilmans-Intern-Shoots-Up-His-Ward.html

]]> By: Audios Amigo http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/06/friday-question-of-the-day-whats-up-with-the-dc-summer-jobs-program/#comment-27954 Audios Amigo Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:33:58 +0000 http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/06/friday-question-of-the-day-whats-up-with-the-dc-summer-jobs-program/#comment-27954 The program should be scrapped. Enough of the ghetto poor think that jobs are an entitlement as it is, to increase that number is just detrimental to society. What can be done to improve the employment prospects of DC Youth? How about lowering taxes on businesses so that they can afford to hire more part time help? School in DC needs to be full time, as well. As far as I know DC is not an agrarian society where children are working in the fields during the summer. The program should be scrapped. Enough of the ghetto poor think that jobs are an entitlement as it is, to increase that number is just detrimental to society.

What can be done to improve the employment prospects of DC Youth? How about lowering taxes on businesses so that they can afford to hire more part time help?

School in DC needs to be full time, as well. As far as I know DC is not an agrarian society where children are working in the fields during the summer.

]]> By: Neener http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/06/friday-question-of-the-day-whats-up-with-the-dc-summer-jobs-program/#comment-27953 Neener Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:14:15 +0000 http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/06/friday-question-of-the-day-whats-up-with-the-dc-summer-jobs-program/#comment-27953 10:45am, name one Dischord member who got paid to be in a band. That kind of thing was gone by the time Riot Grrrl started. 10:45am, name one Dischord member who got paid to be in a band.

That kind of thing was gone by the time Riot Grrrl started.

]]> By: Neener http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/06/friday-question-of-the-day-whats-up-with-the-dc-summer-jobs-program/#comment-27952 Neener Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:09:28 +0000 http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/06/friday-question-of-the-day-whats-up-with-the-dc-summer-jobs-program/#comment-27952 While it sounds like the DCSJP is a mess - I have no real experience with it - it is appalling to me that there is an implication that the brazen shooting at Columbia Heights yesterday afternoon has anything to do with it. Just because the fight started at the orientation? The fight could have started at a CVS, does that make it CVS While it sounds like the DCSJP is a mess – I have no real experience with it – it is appalling to me that there is an implication that the brazen shooting at Columbia Heights yesterday afternoon has anything to do with it. Just because the fight started at the orientation? The fight could have started at a CVS, does that make it CVS

]]> By: Big Youth http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/06/friday-question-of-the-day-whats-up-with-the-dc-summer-jobs-program/#comment-27951 Big Youth Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:41:54 +0000 http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/06/friday-question-of-the-day-whats-up-with-the-dc-summer-jobs-program/#comment-27951 Anonymous Says: June 19th, 2009 at 12:59 pm You are alwys starting some trouple, let the criminal justice system take it's toll, don't try to influence the process. You may get some Brass knucles accross your face by the kid's parent if you are not careful. I am just looking out for you. Lets work to get Rid of Mrs. Bow Tie - JG, she has out lived her usefullness. She will not investigate Metro's hiring process which discriminates against straight men and women in favor of Gs. Anonymous Says: June 19th, 2009 at 12:59 pm

You are alwys starting some trouple, let the criminal justice system take it’s toll, don’t try to influence the process. You may get some Brass knucles accross your face by the kid’s parent if you are not careful. I am just looking out for you.
Lets work to get Rid of Mrs. Bow Tie – JG, she has out lived her usefullness. She will not investigate Metro’s hiring process which discriminates against straight men and women in favor of Gs.

]]> By: Pennywise http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/06/friday-question-of-the-day-whats-up-with-the-dc-summer-jobs-program/#comment-27950 Pennywise Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:11:49 +0000 http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/06/friday-question-of-the-day-whats-up-with-the-dc-summer-jobs-program/#comment-27950 Triple Nickel, yes, guns are illegal, but the penalties are minimal, especially if the gun wasn't being actively used when it was confiscated. See: http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/people/8002.html for more on this. Note that part of the crime bill voted on Tuesday makes it harder for gun arrestees to be released prior to trial, but not impossible. Google Arthur Daniels and Ransom Perry for more on releasing people caught with guns for a sad story. Lastly, if the server is working and you have patience, search the DC Courts docket: https://www.dccourts.gov/pa/ and track cases of CPWL to see how many are released right away, and then cases get thrown out or pled down. Its hard to say, but more than 50% are released I'd guess, and most of those plead down. I don't want to argue, but I think its pretty well established that penalties are fairly minimal. The max penalty for brass knuckles is a year in jail, if they were used in an assault. If found outside an assault, my guess is they count as jewelry. Please do prove me wrong, I could use the lift... Triple Nickel, yes, guns are illegal, but the penalties are minimal, especially if the gun wasn’t being actively used when it was confiscated. See:

http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/people/8002.html

for more on this. Note that part of the crime bill voted on Tuesday makes it harder for gun arrestees to be released prior to trial, but not impossible. Google Arthur Daniels and Ransom Perry for more on releasing people caught with guns for a sad story. Lastly, if the server is working and you have patience, search the DC Courts docket:

https://www.dccourts.gov/pa/

and track cases of CPWL to see how many are released right away, and then cases get thrown out or pled down. Its hard to say, but more than 50% are released I’d guess, and most of those plead down.

I don’t want to argue, but I think its pretty well established that penalties are fairly minimal. The max penalty for brass knuckles is a year in jail, if they were used in an assault. If found outside an assault, my guess is they count as jewelry. Please do prove me wrong, I could use the lift…

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