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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/07/new-michael-jackson-mural/#comment-23277</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slick!</description>
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		<title>By: Odentex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Odentex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon: Look, I don&#039;t Wanna Be Startin&#039; Somethin&#039;, but clearly WMATA has come to the conclusion that they aren&#039;t going to do anything about what is basically Human Nature.  While a lot of people clearly think it&#039;s Bad, since there are Black or White cameras everywhere at these Metro stations, we have to assume that they are giving JU One More Chance.  JU may be a Smooth Criminal, but this Thriller had to take hours to complete and WMATA had plenty of time to tell him to Beat It and they must&#039;ve decided You Can&#039;t Win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon: Look, I don&#8217;t Wanna Be Startin&#8217; Somethin&#8217;, but clearly WMATA has come to the conclusion that they aren&#8217;t going to do anything about what is basically Human Nature.  While a lot of people clearly think it&#8217;s Bad, since there are Black or White cameras everywhere at these Metro stations, we have to assume that they are giving JU One More Chance.  JU may be a Smooth Criminal, but this Thriller had to take hours to complete and WMATA had plenty of time to tell him to Beat It and they must&#8217;ve decided You Can&#8217;t Win.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O-tex, you get to my fundamental point.  Some of this stuff has to be commissioned/approved by the owner, such as the food bank mural.  In those cases I get it -- brightens up the ride, especially now that it takes 90 min. to get through that section of the red line, and some of it isn&#039;t half bad.  But I doubt JU put this one up in the light of day or with WMATA&#039;s prior approval.  Apologies to JU if he did.  And assuming at some point this one will come Off the Wall [cue rimshot], it&#039;s going to cost somebody.  I&#039;d rather it not be me, even indirectly, nor do I think it should be incumbent on a private building owner to make the objective post hoc determination that he doesn&#039;t like it, when the expense of removal is on him and/or the city&#039;s graffiti removal unit, which again comes indirectly out of the taxpayer&#039;s pocket.

If WMATA controls long spaces of retaining walls and doesn&#039;t mind them being painted with graffiti art (as opposed to vandalized), and if other building owners on the corridor wanted to get involved, I&#039;d be all for some sort of clearinghouse dispensing wall space along the train corridors to local artists for stuff like this mural, possibly through some of the local non-profits that teach the medium, as long as the responsibility for maintaining that space was then transferred to the artist.  But frankly, I don&#039;t think it does much good to celebrate the fruits of a criminal act.

And thanks for the suggestion, but no way I can take that handle.  I&#039;d misspell it half the time, and someone probably would think it was effete, which is such a negative thing these days.  The &quot;Effete Aesthete&quot;?? I&#039;d be doomed.  The meaner kids would just put the graffiti directly on my face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O-tex, you get to my fundamental point.  Some of this stuff has to be commissioned/approved by the owner, such as the food bank mural.  In those cases I get it &#8212; brightens up the ride, especially now that it takes 90 min. to get through that section of the red line, and some of it isn&#8217;t half bad.  But I doubt JU put this one up in the light of day or with WMATA&#8217;s prior approval.  Apologies to JU if he did.  And assuming at some point this one will come Off the Wall [cue rimshot], it&#8217;s going to cost somebody.  I&#8217;d rather it not be me, even indirectly, nor do I think it should be incumbent on a private building owner to make the objective post hoc determination that he doesn&#8217;t like it, when the expense of removal is on him and/or the city&#8217;s graffiti removal unit, which again comes indirectly out of the taxpayer&#8217;s pocket.</p>
<p>If WMATA controls long spaces of retaining walls and doesn&#8217;t mind them being painted with graffiti art (as opposed to vandalized), and if other building owners on the corridor wanted to get involved, I&#8217;d be all for some sort of clearinghouse dispensing wall space along the train corridors to local artists for stuff like this mural, possibly through some of the local non-profits that teach the medium, as long as the responsibility for maintaining that space was then transferred to the artist.  But frankly, I don&#8217;t think it does much good to celebrate the fruits of a criminal act.</p>
<p>And thanks for the suggestion, but no way I can take that handle.  I&#8217;d misspell it half the time, and someone probably would think it was effete, which is such a negative thing these days.  The &#8220;Effete Aesthete&#8221;?? I&#8217;d be doomed.  The meaner kids would just put the graffiti directly on my face.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The graffiti along the Red Line north of Union Station is really good. The ratio of skilled and aesthetically pleasing work to tags and assorted crap is very high. I would guess that to some degree it&#039;s good because it doesn&#039;t get painted over very often, so the kids are willing to put more work into it.

JU also has, if memory serves, a mural with a picture of the Fresh Prince and one with a picture of the Joker.

I hope no one ever tries to paint over the Sean Taylor mural.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The graffiti along the Red Line north of Union Station is really good. The ratio of skilled and aesthetically pleasing work to tags and assorted crap is very high. I would guess that to some degree it&#8217;s good because it doesn&#8217;t get painted over very often, so the kids are willing to put more work into it.</p>
<p>JU also has, if memory serves, a mural with a picture of the Fresh Prince and one with a picture of the Joker.</p>
<p>I hope no one ever tries to paint over the Sean Taylor mural.</p>
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		<title>By: Odentex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Odentex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon @ 1:02:  The onwers&#039; consent is an objective fact.  Not every building or wall has graffiti on it along the red line corridor.  Why is that?  Because in their individual &quot;eyes&quot; it is either objectionable or not.  It&#039;s determinable.  Also, don&#039;t be so sure it&#039;s always a crime.  Some of these are commissioned murals (incl. some of those on the food bank), though clearly JU&#039;s opus to Freaky McDancypants is on Metro property.  I&#039;m not saying don&#039;t inforce the laws or don&#039;t let the owners scrub the walls, I&#039;m just saying I appriciate the some of the work.

May I suggest &quot;DC Aesthete&quot; for your handle?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon @ 1:02:  The onwers&#8217; consent is an objective fact.  Not every building or wall has graffiti on it along the red line corridor.  Why is that?  Because in their individual &#8220;eyes&#8221; it is either objectionable or not.  It&#8217;s determinable.  Also, don&#8217;t be so sure it&#8217;s always a crime.  Some of these are commissioned murals (incl. some of those on the food bank), though clearly JU&#8217;s opus to Freaky McDancypants is on Metro property.  I&#8217;m not saying don&#8217;t inforce the laws or don&#8217;t let the owners scrub the walls, I&#8217;m just saying I appriciate the some of the work.</p>
<p>May I suggest &#8220;DC Aesthete&#8221; for your handle?</p>
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		<title>By: eric in ledroit</title>
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		<dc:creator>eric in ledroit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i can&#039;t think of a city that doesn&#039;t have graffiti art along its rail corridors.  london and amsterdam spring to mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i can&#8217;t think of a city that doesn&#8217;t have graffiti art along its rail corridors.  london and amsterdam spring to mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool &quot;Disco&quot; Dan</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh bother ... now we&#039;re into the whole &quot;Anon&quot; problem and I don&#039;t have a witty handle AND somebody else already posts on this site using my actual name (which probably is his name, too) ...

Anyway, @11:48 here (not @12:15), and I&#039;d analogize thusly: I&#039;m betting my basement toilet has a pretty disgusting toilet ring right now and can assure you it&#039;s low on my list of things to clean, but that still doesn&#039;t mean I want you dropping a Big Texan deuce in it, or even taking a Lone Star leak, even though I probably wouldn&#039;t check on it for a few weeks to know you hadn&#039;t flushed.

And without analogizing, I don&#039;t think we develop much of a civic ethos by calling a crime something other than a crime.  Just because it&#039;s the current reality doesn&#039;t make it right.  The owner&#039;s consent isn&#039;t a subjective determination, and I&#039;m really uncomfortable with the proposed alternative of &quot;eye of the beholder&quot; when it comes to people&#039;s property rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh bother &#8230; now we&#8217;re into the whole &#8220;Anon&#8221; problem and I don&#8217;t have a witty handle AND somebody else already posts on this site using my actual name (which probably is his name, too) &#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway, @11:48 here (not @12:15), and I&#8217;d analogize thusly: I&#8217;m betting my basement toilet has a pretty disgusting toilet ring right now and can assure you it&#8217;s low on my list of things to clean, but that still doesn&#8217;t mean I want you dropping a Big Texan deuce in it, or even taking a Lone Star leak, even though I probably wouldn&#8217;t check on it for a few weeks to know you hadn&#8217;t flushed.</p>
<p>And without analogizing, I don&#8217;t think we develop much of a civic ethos by calling a crime something other than a crime.  Just because it&#8217;s the current reality doesn&#8217;t make it right.  The owner&#8217;s consent isn&#8217;t a subjective determination, and I&#8217;m really uncomfortable with the proposed alternative of &#8220;eye of the beholder&#8221; when it comes to people&#8217;s property rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Odentex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Odentex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon:  You&#039;re right.  This graffiti scourge must be stopped immediately!  That corridor from Fort Totten to Union Station was a verdant paradise of chirping songbirds in a lush canopy of virgin wood until JU started painting peons to pedophiles all over the place!

I say we ban all paint ASAP.  We just can&#039;t trust paint retailers to responsibly sell their evil wares only to people who will use paint &quot;properly&quot; (people over 30 who own a minivan).

The shame!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon:  You&#8217;re right.  This graffiti scourge must be stopped immediately!  That corridor from Fort Totten to Union Station was a verdant paradise of chirping songbirds in a lush canopy of virgin wood until JU started painting peons to pedophiles all over the place!</p>
<p>I say we ban all paint ASAP.  We just can&#8217;t trust paint retailers to responsibly sell their evil wares only to people who will use paint &#8220;properly&#8221; (people over 30 who own a minivan).</p>
<p>The shame!</p>
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		<title>By: Odentex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Odentex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon: I&#039;d be interested in just how many tears have been shed from the eye of an abandoned warehouse&#039;s owner due to the terrible indignity of having his derelict rat haven&#039;s wall painted on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon: I&#8217;d be interested in just how many tears have been shed from the eye of an abandoned warehouse&#8217;s owner due to the terrible indignity of having his derelict rat haven&#8217;s wall painted on.</p>
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