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	<title>Comments on: Dear PoP &#8211; Bicyclist Injured on Mass Ave. Anyone Know What Happened?</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@E-Rich:

North of Military Road, on the west side of 16th Street there are exactly 2 street crossings all the way to Silver Spring (a distance of about 3 miles) because it borders Rock Creek Park. This is the area I am talking about mostly.

But honestly when I said the sidewalk on 16th Street I was saying &quot;even the sidewalk.&quot; There is a bike lane on 14th and traffic is much slower moving, and Beach Drive which essentially parallels 16th Street is already a very popular and reasonably safe bike commuting route. I just can&#039;t think of a good reason to bike with two lanes of rush hour traffic, and no shoulder, in 16th Street.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@E-Rich:</p>
<p>North of Military Road, on the west side of 16th Street there are exactly 2 street crossings all the way to Silver Spring (a distance of about 3 miles) because it borders Rock Creek Park. This is the area I am talking about mostly.</p>
<p>But honestly when I said the sidewalk on 16th Street I was saying &#8220;even the sidewalk.&#8221; There is a bike lane on 14th and traffic is much slower moving, and Beach Drive which essentially parallels 16th Street is already a very popular and reasonably safe bike commuting route. I just can&#8217;t think of a good reason to bike with two lanes of rush hour traffic, and no shoulder, in 16th Street.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 21:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was the person hit by Howard University last Monday.  I just wanted to thank Anonymous who posted on 8/24 at 3:45 and everyone else that stopped and helped me.  It was pretty serious, but I&#039;m going to be o.k.  The Howard U docs took great care of me and I&#039;m already back home convalescing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was the person hit by Howard University last Monday.  I just wanted to thank Anonymous who posted on 8/24 at 3:45 and everyone else that stopped and helped me.  It was pretty serious, but I&#8217;m going to be o.k.  The Howard U docs took great care of me and I&#8217;m already back home convalescing.</p>
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		<title>By: E-Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>E-Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jamie, don&#039;t let anyone tell you and please don&#039;t tell anyone ever again that riding on the sidewalk is safer on 16th Street.  I live exactly where you&#039;re talking about, and riding on the sidewalk is a common practice on 16th already and tantamount to a death wish.  Riding up you have weary cyclists hitting the hill and not paying any attention to cars turning from the road.  Rolling down they have no control on the sidewalks (that change from brick and cement pavement and can really screw you up on a bike) and they, again, fly through crosswalks and right into the paths of turning cars.

I ride my bike on 16th all the time, and Monkey Daddy is right about the buses in the right lane.  If the hill is too much for you, get off and WALK your bike on the sidewalk.  Riding on the sidewalk is dangerous to pedestrians, cyclists, and drivers.  It&#039;s just stupid if you&#039;re over the age of 7 and plan on crossing a street.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamie, don&#8217;t let anyone tell you and please don&#8217;t tell anyone ever again that riding on the sidewalk is safer on 16th Street.  I live exactly where you&#8217;re talking about, and riding on the sidewalk is a common practice on 16th already and tantamount to a death wish.  Riding up you have weary cyclists hitting the hill and not paying any attention to cars turning from the road.  Rolling down they have no control on the sidewalks (that change from brick and cement pavement and can really screw you up on a bike) and they, again, fly through crosswalks and right into the paths of turning cars.</p>
<p>I ride my bike on 16th all the time, and Monkey Daddy is right about the buses in the right lane.  If the hill is too much for you, get off and WALK your bike on the sidewalk.  Riding on the sidewalk is dangerous to pedestrians, cyclists, and drivers.  It&#8217;s just stupid if you&#8217;re over the age of 7 and plan on crossing a street.</p>
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		<title>By: Petweezy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Petweezy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@eric in ledroit I know right!?!  I&#039;ve decided I want to make a tshirt that says &quot;don&#039;t be a pussy, TAKE THE LANE&quot;.  That is what I feel like shouting to the people who do &quot;the weave&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@eric in ledroit I know right!?!  I&#8217;ve decided I want to make a tshirt that says &#8220;don&#8217;t be a pussy, TAKE THE LANE&#8221;.  That is what I feel like shouting to the people who do &#8220;the weave&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 04:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew a guy a while back who was trying to get a job in a Congressional office--part of his job description was to &quot;do whatever it took&quot; to get the Congressman to meetings, Reagan, etc. on time by car. This included jumping curbs, cutting off other drivers, generally being an asshole. Is that common? Because, when you think of how many Congresspeople and Senators there are, that&#039;s a lot of insane driving right there. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew a guy a while back who was trying to get a job in a Congressional office&#8211;part of his job description was to &#8220;do whatever it took&#8221; to get the Congressman to meetings, Reagan, etc. on time by car. This included jumping curbs, cutting off other drivers, generally being an asshole. Is that common? Because, when you think of how many Congresspeople and Senators there are, that&#8217;s a lot of insane driving right there. . .</p>
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		<title>By: IrvingGreen</title>
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		<dc:creator>IrvingGreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 23:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mal - I visit my gf in Philly and have the exact opposite reaction.  Both drivers and bikers there are CRAZY!  No regard for anyone else on the road.  Lane changes without warning or looking, riding through red lights without seeming to notice that there is oncoming traffic, stopping in traffic lanes to pick someone up or tie a shoe.  Every time I&#039;m on the streets downtown or in West Philly, I see someone risk their lives in some really, really stupid way.  If any city can make DC drivers look not so bad, it&#039;s Philly.  In DC, at least, the drivers seem to be in control of their vehicles and aware of their surroundings, but extremely egotistical about the relative value of their time vs. others&#039; safety.

@Monkey Daddy - no, but a light timed for 60 would also be timed for 30.  If you get to a light twice as fast as expected, you will just have to wait longer for it to change; however, if you take twice as long to get there, it will have already gone through a cycle by the time you get there.  Even if you get through several 30 mph lights at 60 mph, you&#039;ll eventually catch up to the lights that haven&#039;t turned green yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mal &#8211; I visit my gf in Philly and have the exact opposite reaction.  Both drivers and bikers there are CRAZY!  No regard for anyone else on the road.  Lane changes without warning or looking, riding through red lights without seeming to notice that there is oncoming traffic, stopping in traffic lanes to pick someone up or tie a shoe.  Every time I&#8217;m on the streets downtown or in West Philly, I see someone risk their lives in some really, really stupid way.  If any city can make DC drivers look not so bad, it&#8217;s Philly.  In DC, at least, the drivers seem to be in control of their vehicles and aware of their surroundings, but extremely egotistical about the relative value of their time vs. others&#8217; safety.</p>
<p>@Monkey Daddy &#8211; no, but a light timed for 60 would also be timed for 30.  If you get to a light twice as fast as expected, you will just have to wait longer for it to change; however, if you take twice as long to get there, it will have already gone through a cycle by the time you get there.  Even if you get through several 30 mph lights at 60 mph, you&#8217;ll eventually catch up to the lights that haven&#8217;t turned green yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Mal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Anonymous345 - the accident I saw was nearish the Naval Observatory, not Howard.  Sad that there were two injuries in one morning (I&#039;m sure that happens often, but not often that you hear about them).  I wish someone knew what happened!

@Sophiagrrl - I *love* that idea!

And in general - I&#039;ve seen a lot more cars getting pulled over by DC cops recently.  That makes me happy, even as a driver.  It&#039;s not just the cyclists that get angered by terrible drivers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Anonymous345 &#8211; the accident I saw was nearish the Naval Observatory, not Howard.  Sad that there were two injuries in one morning (I&#8217;m sure that happens often, but not often that you hear about them).  I wish someone knew what happened!</p>
<p>@Sophiagrrl &#8211; I *love* that idea!</p>
<p>And in general &#8211; I&#8217;ve seen a lot more cars getting pulled over by DC cops recently.  That makes me happy, even as a driver.  It&#8217;s not just the cyclists that get angered by terrible drivers!</p>
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		<title>By: Sophiagrrl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sophiagrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like Anon 3:45 saw a totally different accident since I don&#039;t think the first was anywhere near Howard. Crap.

I had a thought while riding on Saturday: what if, instead of a Critical Mass or a Bike To Work Day, we had a Follow the Rules Week. I envision all cyclists en masse really, truly, madly, deeply following the rules. We&#039;d have to do some education because a lot of folks hold dearly to the belief that they know the traffic laws when they don&#039;t. Thousands of bike commuters riding exactly with the traffic, stopping in their queue at the light, signaling turns... taking the lane when it is too dangerous for cars to pass on the left. Never exceeding the posted speed limit (which no one believes is 25/15 MPH on Michigan Ave NE)... Never rolling a stop sign, but coming to a complete and full stop with foot on the ground, looking both ways and then crossing.

Then, after that amazing example of law-abiding, every driver in the city will spend a solid week following every traffic law to the T. No rolling stops, no speeding.

Just an exercise in self-discipline on both sides. If nothing else, it&#039;d be an interesting educational campaign, since I think a lot of the &#039;issues&#039; stem from folks who think they know the rules but don&#039;t... and could use some humbling.

(and yes, I know that&#039;s a wholly unrealistic idea, given human nature.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like Anon 3:45 saw a totally different accident since I don&#8217;t think the first was anywhere near Howard. Crap.</p>
<p>I had a thought while riding on Saturday: what if, instead of a Critical Mass or a Bike To Work Day, we had a Follow the Rules Week. I envision all cyclists en masse really, truly, madly, deeply following the rules. We&#8217;d have to do some education because a lot of folks hold dearly to the belief that they know the traffic laws when they don&#8217;t. Thousands of bike commuters riding exactly with the traffic, stopping in their queue at the light, signaling turns&#8230; taking the lane when it is too dangerous for cars to pass on the left. Never exceeding the posted speed limit (which no one believes is 25/15 MPH on Michigan Ave NE)&#8230; Never rolling a stop sign, but coming to a complete and full stop with foot on the ground, looking both ways and then crossing.</p>
<p>Then, after that amazing example of law-abiding, every driver in the city will spend a solid week following every traffic law to the T. No rolling stops, no speeding.</p>
<p>Just an exercise in self-discipline on both sides. If nothing else, it&#8217;d be an interesting educational campaign, since I think a lot of the &#8216;issues&#8217; stem from folks who think they know the rules but don&#8217;t&#8230; and could use some humbling.</p>
<p>(and yes, I know that&#8217;s a wholly unrealistic idea, given human nature.)</p>
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		<title>By: Eric in Ledroit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric in Ledroit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And picking a path between stopped cars and gridlock can also go quickly (for the bicyclist).&quot;

and then one day someone &quot;picking a path between stopped cars&quot; will get hit by someone who doesn&#039;t see them, and once again we will hear from all the whiny bikers complaining that the drivers in this town are out to get them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And picking a path between stopped cars and gridlock can also go quickly (for the bicyclist).&#8221;</p>
<p>and then one day someone &#8220;picking a path between stopped cars&#8221; will get hit by someone who doesn&#8217;t see them, and once again we will hear from all the whiny bikers complaining that the drivers in this town are out to get them.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this is the accident I saw (by Howard University), she was extremely injuried.  My guess she will be okay but will be in critical care for a while.  I was on a shuttle going to work when we passed by the accident as it happened.  Our shuttle driver pulled to the side of the road and allowed some of us to get off to see if she was okay because no one else was stopping.  As I walked up to this woman, I knew she was not okay! Without going into to details she will probably have to have major surgeries (again, this is all guessing on what I saw).  My role was to call 911 at that point and give locations and stuff.  I hope she is okay and I hope the person who hit her did not leave the scene (another detail I don&#039;t know).  I just know she was hit by a truck (according to someone in our shuttle).

Hopefully she will be okay!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this is the accident I saw (by Howard University), she was extremely injuried.  My guess she will be okay but will be in critical care for a while.  I was on a shuttle going to work when we passed by the accident as it happened.  Our shuttle driver pulled to the side of the road and allowed some of us to get off to see if she was okay because no one else was stopping.  As I walked up to this woman, I knew she was not okay! Without going into to details she will probably have to have major surgeries (again, this is all guessing on what I saw).  My role was to call 911 at that point and give locations and stuff.  I hope she is okay and I hope the person who hit her did not leave the scene (another detail I don&#8217;t know).  I just know she was hit by a truck (according to someone in our shuttle).</p>
<p>Hopefully she will be okay!</p>
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