Comments on: Would You Like to See a Christmas Tree in Columbia Heights Plaza? http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/10/8350/ Welcome to the beautiful life Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:39:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Mark L http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/10/8350/#comment-51670 Mark L Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:40:31 +0000 http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/10/8350/#comment-51670 WTF is a secular holiday tree? The weight of over a century of symbolic associations will cause nearly everyone who sees it to associate any big pimped-out tree with christmas. Businesses, homeowners, condo boards, etc in the area can put up as much religious stuff as they want, but how can anybody argue against the inappropriateness of putting a symbol of a christian holiday in a public space? Many here are referencing what is done other places, or the aesthetic appeal of a tree, or the potential ramifications of having the tree. I agree with many such comments, but can't get past the utter basic wrongness of the whole idea. WTF is a secular holiday tree? The weight of over a century of symbolic associations will cause nearly everyone who sees it to associate any big pimped-out tree with christmas. Businesses, homeowners, condo boards, etc in the area can put up as much religious stuff as they want, but how can anybody argue against the inappropriateness of putting a symbol of a christian holiday in a public space? Many here are referencing what is done other places, or the aesthetic appeal of a tree, or the potential ramifications of having the tree. I agree with many such comments, but can’t get past the utter basic wrongness of the whole idea.

]]> By: Brett http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/10/8350/#comment-51669 Brett Wed, 21 Oct 2009 03:19:13 +0000 http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/10/8350/#comment-51669 Here's another vote from an atheist = yes to a Christmas tree please. Here’s another vote from an atheist = yes to a Christmas tree please.

]]> By: Mr. T in DC http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/10/8350/#comment-51667 Mr. T in DC Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:25:23 +0000 http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/10/8350/#comment-51667 Actually, voiceofreason, or whoever you are, your links were a bit of a fishing expedition, weren't they? just because you Google something and get some hits doesn't mean it proves your point. Of the links I randomly looked at, one lawsuit was about a Christmas tree with large CROSSES as ornaments, in a bunch of others the lawsuits were dropped after they were deemed without merit, and others were poor analogies to the CH Plaza for various reasons (such as the tree was right in front of a courthouse). Actually, voiceofreason, or whoever you are, your links were a bit of a fishing expedition, weren’t they? just because you Google something and get some hits doesn’t mean it proves your point. Of the links I randomly looked at, one lawsuit was about a Christmas tree with large CROSSES as ornaments, in a bunch of others the lawsuits were dropped after they were deemed without merit, and others were poor analogies to the CH Plaza for various reasons (such as the tree was right in front of a courthouse).

]]> By: voiceofreason http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/10/8350/#comment-51666 voiceofreason Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:45:33 +0000 http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/10/8350/#comment-51666 Here you go Jamie: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%22christmas%20tree%22%20lawsuit Here you go Jamie:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%22christmas%20tree%22%20lawsuit

]]> By: lalalala http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/10/8350/#comment-51665 lalalala Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:14:14 +0000 http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/10/8350/#comment-51665 Jamie: baseless claims are voiceofreason/dcdirewolf's bread & butter. have you seen some of the threads in the CH forum? Jamie:

baseless claims are voiceofreason/dcdirewolf’s bread & butter. have you seen some of the threads in the CH forum?

]]> By: ScorpioDJs http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/10/8350/#comment-51664 ScorpioDJs Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:51:28 +0000 http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/10/8350/#comment-51664 We'd love to see a Christmas Tree in that plaza. It's looking nice and would add to the nightly glow of the area! YAY. We'll help decorate too! We’d love to see a Christmas Tree in that plaza. It’s looking nice and would add to the nightly glow of the area! YAY. We’ll help decorate too!

]]> By: Christ Stained Amerika http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/10/8350/#comment-51663 Christ Stained Amerika Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:23:44 +0000 http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/10/8350/#comment-51663 If it dosen't have a replica Nativity barnyard scene, complete with live animals, then it is just a Holiday Tree. If it dosen’t have a replica Nativity barnyard scene, complete with live animals, then it is just a Holiday Tree.

]]> By: Jamie http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/10/8350/#comment-51662 Jamie Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:03:16 +0000 http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/10/8350/#comment-51662 @voiceofreason: it is your job to provide links if you intend to back up your claims. No, you don't have to, but likewise, I don't have to place any weight at all in you unsubstantiated comments. Since your claim is far from intuitive, the burden of proof is on you if you expect anyone to believe it. But since logic doesn't seem to work on you, I don't suppose that the idea of "supporting a claim if you want to be taken seriously" makes any more sense to you. Just saying stuff doesn't make it true. @voiceofreason: it is your job to provide links if you intend to back up your claims. No, you don’t have to, but likewise, I don’t have to place any weight at all in you unsubstantiated comments. Since your claim is far from intuitive, the burden of proof is on you if you expect anyone to believe it.

But since logic doesn’t seem to work on you, I don’t suppose that the idea of “supporting a claim if you want to be taken seriously” makes any more sense to you. Just saying stuff doesn’t make it true.

]]> By: mj http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/10/8350/#comment-51661 mj Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:15:52 +0000 http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/10/8350/#comment-51661 Maybe you can get Target to sponsor it since it would greatly improve that area during the very important Christmas season for them. Maybe you can get Target to sponsor it since it would greatly improve that area during the very important Christmas season for them.

]]> By: voiceofreason http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/10/8350/#comment-51660 voiceofreason Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:15:04 +0000 http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/10/8350/#comment-51660 I guess it's technically a plaza, since it's a public area, but man, it's so small! Plaza is definitely not the first word that comes to mind. I guess it’s technically a plaza, since it’s a public area, but man, it’s so small! Plaza is definitely not the first word that comes to mind.

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