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We’ve been having lots of discussions on Elwood Thompson’s lately. Looks like things are moving along nicely. Here’s another positive development, from an email:
“Dear Friends:
I am glad to report that yesterday I introduced and the Council passed legislation to help an organic market to locate in the DCUSA retail center . This bill will ensure that Ellwood Thompson’s — a full-service, organic, natural and sustainable food store — will receive tax relief benefits that are available to every qualified supermarket in DC.
Ellwood Thompson’s is dedicated to high-quality products, supporting local farmers and the community. It signed a lease with DC USA Operating Co., LLC for space in the DC USA Shopping Center in Ward 1. The construction of their supermarket space was delayed due to the downturn in the economy. The is the second time the council passed this bill. The earlier measure was about to expire, and so this action was necessary. the legal action pertained to the fact that–unlike many supermarkets–this one is not free standing and is part of, and within, an existing development. So some technical changes were needed.
I am told that the plans for this supermarket are again underway. Our latest report is that Ellwood Thompson’s has submitted construction diagrams to the developer and they are awaiting approval.
With the passage of this bill, the Council is again doing all it can to make this happen.
Bests, Councilmember Jim Graham”
Category: Columbia Heights, grocery stores
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02 February 2012 4:19 PM
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The pos was down for a bit, then came back. CC cards are always excepted. all is fixed.
Woo! $8 slice of pie here I come, right after my $4.50 cupcake!
(But their pies are...
Been meaning to try their Caramel Apple Crumb pie for awhile. This will definitely make...
I thought they said there would be a lot of pigs here, but there are horses too?
OMG their SMOG and Baltimore Bomb pies are ridiculously delicious!
Jim Graham for Mayor!
Best news for CH and JG in a long while!
Tax relief for the rich, wooooooooo!
VOR- and by rich you are talking about the small business owner who can’t even come up with the money to complete the build out of his second grocery store?
VOR – you are hysterical. How about jobs for the poor? This is economic development you silly liberal. No profit=no rich=no taxes=no jobs=no npo or gov’t. Do you see? How about now?
Anon at 10:56 am. Well. Yes. Based on being able to afford opening a large store in DCUSA, and based upon the customer base for the store, I think it’s safe to say both are rich.
On the other hand, this is a tax break that any grocery store gets, across the board, so I’m actually not really opposed to it. But my first instinct was my first post.
Dirty, this place will create less than 20 low wage jobs. I’m not a liberal. Thanks.
VOR seems to believe that money grows on trees and should just be handed out to anyone who doesn’t have it, and that things like “corporations” that provide “jobs” and “taxes” only get in the way of the magic money tree that will fund social service programs and help people escape poverty.
And by the way, this isn’t a handout, all this does is puts Ellwood’s on equal footing with other grocers in the District, which receive the same tax benefit. Otherwise, for example, it would be at a competive disadvantage with The Giant.
@voiceofreason,
I think it’s a good thing for all income levels in CH, from the very rich, who might be take advantage of their prepared foods and exotic ingredients, to the very poor, who will benefit from having healthy, organic produce available in a neighborhood that once only had the small, old 14th Street Giant with crappy produce as an option for feeding their families. Nutritionists and advocates for the urban poor continually point out the lack of healthy food options in many city neighborhoods, and the attitude that healthy, organic food is somehow “yuppie food” only is part of the problem. The more healthy options there are in the city, whether they be Whole Foods, Yes, or ET, the better for all.
You’re right, you’re Nancy Pelosi crazy.
How many private sector jobs do tax increases create? How many jobs do you create? 20 sounds like a pretty good number.
I think your idea of “rich” needs some adjusting VOR- You think anyone living in DC making 40k a year buying organic juice is rich? lol. Go watch the new michael moore movie. Actual rich people are tickled pink when idiots like you put people making under 500k a year in the catagory of “Rich”. It insulates them from uprisings when rich are preceived to be anyone with a BMW. You have a salary of 200k in DC? you are MIDDLE CLASS. idiot.
VOR, this place will create WAYYY more than 20 jobs. Also, what other-than-low-wage jobs would you expect to be created in the space proposed to be filled by ET? And what’s wrong with $8.25/hour? No, people who don’t have the skills or desire to get better than minimum wage work do not get their own fancy apartments in Columbia Heights, but with a few friends or family they can easily split a 3-bedroom within 20 minute bus-ride distance. You know, like the thousands and thousands of entry-level non-profit staffers (many of whom make little more than $8.25/hour) have been doing in this city for decades. GET REAL.
It might create only 20 permanent, in store jobs, but wouldn’t it create another 20 or so construction jobs as they are building? How about the jobs it may create for vendors, local farmers, and distributors? Saying a grocery store only creates bagging jobs seems a little silly to me.
Plus, having anything, regardless of how many jobs it creates seems a hell of a lot better than another empty DCUSA store front.
Sorry VoR, but you are totally wrong.
Hi I work for Ellwood Thompson’s and we currently employee over 100 employees at our Richmond store which is similar in size to the purposed D.C. space. As an employee of E.T. I have to say their benefits are amazing, including FREE (really awesome) health insurance to anyone working 30 or more hours a week, great wages, discounts on food, paid vacation time etc. E.T. is a great employer that offers much more than min. wage jobs in fact not one employee at Ellwood’s is paid minimum wage.
I don’t get it. If these breaks are available to all qualifying grocery stores, why is any legislation needed?
ET employee, thanks for correcting VOR’s BS post. It’s good to hear that there are still employers who do right by their employees. Your post just strengthens my support for ET in Columbia Heights.
VOR= I put myself through college working at places like ET. You sir, are a pendejo!
I have nothing against people who work in grocery stores, you folks are projecting quite a bit onto my post.
However, to claim that ET is a big job creation machine is just wrong.
I’m not opposed to ET, I support it coming, I don’t oppose the tax relief, so everyone just relax.
Saf, I THINK the issue is that most big grocers own their own real estate, and because ET is leasing, they didn’t qualify under the terms of the legislation …
If this wasn’t reintroduced, an EXISTING tax break for ET to put their high quality store into this location would not be extended.
It is not a new enticement or benefit for ET.
If he didn’t do this, we would rag on Jim Graham for letting this tax break expire.
Andy, I may completely misunderstand the post, but doesn’t it say that changes had to be made?
“the legal action pertained to the fact that–unlike many supermarkets–this one is not free standing and is part of, and within, an existing development. So some technical changes were needed.”
So it is a new enticement?
“you folks are projecting quite a bit onto my post.”
Yeah, your well-documented history of posting ultra-fringe BS and speculative drivel on this blog.
“Tax relief for the rich, wooooooooo!” WRONG
“this place will create less than 20″ WRONG
“low wage jobs” WRONG
“to claim that ET is a big job creation machine is just wrong” WTF are you talking about? You think they’re bringing the labor up from Richmond? This store would create at least 60 NEW, LOCAL jobs, plus add work for overnight janitorial, linen service, window washer, and other local contractors, large and small.
100 jobs isn’t a job creation engine? If not, I’d like to know what is. Maybe we can entice General Motors from Detroit? LOL
WHY DO PEOPLE STILL RESPOND TO VOICEOFREASON?
VoR- Thanks for bringing your particular brand of dour snark to yet another thread. You support bringing ET to CH, but you hate on the tax break that every other supermarket in town appears to get, and you dont think that it will help to create a substantial amount of jobs.
Why exactly do you support ET coming to CH then?
Was this just a case of:
1. VoR throws socio-economic snark bomb without thinking.
2. VoR tries to control resulting damage.
?
What RD said.
Totochtin. Pretty much. I admit I’m off base on this one. Carry on.
Fair enough buddy- don’t ever change though!
VOR: What are you doing to solve any of the mentioned problems ?
For instance, I would support ET to come by loaning some money knowing that I will benefit, the community benefits, and the newly employed benefits.
Here’s to hoping that the next blog post about Ellwoods is announcing the build out has begun.
Per Jim Graham’s letter, it looks like the previous legislation only applied to free-standing grocery stores, not to stores that are going into a development like the ET in DCUSA.
More grocery options is good for everyone. Period.
Don’t you love it when Graham pretends to be doing something but is actually doing nothing. “I introduced a bill granting women the right to vote. Of course, they can already vote, but due to a technical measure in the 19th amendment we needed to clarify this right in the District.” Thanks, Graham. Thanks. Anyone but Graham for Council!!
Based on being able to afford opening a large store in DCUSA, and based upon the customer base for the store, I think it’s safe to say both are rich.
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VOR, we are well aware you aren’t a liberal nor someone who thinks out his posts. I called you the Voice of Reason Magazine and I’m sticking to it.
I have a sneaking suspicion that I am richer than the owner of Ellwood Thompsons.
I spoke to a friend recently who runs three businesses (apt building, restaurant, book store) in a college town. I learned that her total real estate value is under $1 million- roughly the cost of a nice townhouse in Mt Pleasant- and they’re living on under 6 figures for a couple.
How many posters here have household incomes north of 6 figures?
Hello All!
Give Jim Graham a break, he has some bad news with “Cabgate” ouch. HE has not been implicated…. I WILL continue to support JG until the US attorney presents additional evidence. JG is not perfect, but he always works onbehalf of the district and W1. Jim is from Scotland MD,
Graham has made some seriously bad choices with his relationship with Teddy Loza, whether or not he is implicated in cabgate.
Thanks Jim!
Good to hear that this legislation isn’t going to expire, or it would have added a whole new level of obsticales to being able to open! And don’t everyone forget how you were all crying and weeping a couple of days ago about Ellwood not being able to open!
…and by the way, I am a proud Liberal!!!!!!
“I think it’s a good thing for all income levels in CH, from the very rich . . . to the very poor, who will benefit from having healthy, organic produce available . . .
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I support this business coming to CH but let’s not kid ourselves about who the primary customer base will be. Organic produce is generally the province of the wealthier because it’s more expensive than non-organic. Whether it’s worth the extra expense or not, it is nonetheless more expensive. Maybe the low income DC residents that work in the store will be able to buy the food (because of the employee discount mentioned above) but it’s not likely that you will see a lot of people from the nearby projects shopping at this store. If poor people were an important demographic, the store could find much cheaper retail space in SE or NE. Again, I am not down on this store or any other organic outfit. Organic costs more because it’s more expensive to produce. I’m just being realistic about the customer base.
OK, what I read that made me think this wasn’t new was the other part of the post:
I might be misunderstanding it in light of the technical corrections thing.
And I don’t ever expect to forgive Graham for what he did on Loza’s behalf. People all of us lefty yuppies know at urban, poverty, and international development nonprofits spend careers fighting the kind of stuff he supported. We shouldn’t ignore it just because he works to bring us nice grocery stores.
WHAT?!?! The last thing Columbia Heights needs is ANOTHER grocery store! Economic development is fine, but it comes at a cost to city services because of the lost tax revenue. And one grocery store is not enough to relieve unemployment in DC – how about JOB TRAINING??? Oh right, there won’t be money for that because DC keeps on giving away our tax base. See the ‘Numbers’ column in the Hill Rag this week and maybe you’ll understand how destructive and what a bad idea this is. Awful.
Flame wars are fun.
I’m in Dallas on business. Reading these flame wars makes me not miss DC very much.
I did visit a Kroger while down here. My god prices are cheap. Of course minimum wage here is probably 30 cents/hour and land is cheap…