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		<title>By: Jeanne</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/11/dear-pop-witnessing-bikes-being-stolen/#comment-138112</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I surfed over here from a link on the WashCycle blog.  It&#039;s incredible that people who live in Petworth and park at the CH metro (or anywhere in the neighborhood, for that matter) are using CABLE locks!  People, those locks simply aren&#039;t strong enough for this city, or for any area where bike theft is a major problem.  Please get a u-lock, and then lock your bike appropriately: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I surfed over here from a link on the WashCycle blog.  It&#8217;s incredible that people who live in Petworth and park at the CH metro (or anywhere in the neighborhood, for that matter) are using CABLE locks!  People, those locks simply aren&#8217;t strong enough for this city, or for any area where bike theft is a major problem.  Please get a u-lock, and then lock your bike appropriately: <a href="http://www.sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Eryn</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/11/dear-pop-witnessing-bikes-being-stolen/#comment-138110</link>
		<dc:creator>Eryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the person who submitted this to PoP:

If I recall correctly, I&#039;m the bike owner who had just come out to retrieve her bicycle, and you (or some other very nice couple) approached me about how a group of kids had almost stolen my bike.  Indeed, once I got home I noticed that my lock was mostly (but not completely) hacked through, and I&#039;ve since gotten myself a new, sufficiently bad-ass U-lock.

I want to thank you for doing something (even a small something) to dissuade them from taking my bike, since at the time I was particularly confused and worried when you approached me and didn&#039;t adequately thank you.  In the future, I for one will try and be brave about taking action if I ever see anyone trying to steal bikes.  Even if it&#039;s not a direct confrontation, any sort of loud distraction or drawing of attention to the situation certainly can&#039;t hurt.

Thanks again - I&#039;m glad I have people like you as neighbors!

-Eryn, the girl from CH who happily still has her blue and silver bike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the person who submitted this to PoP:</p>
<p>If I recall correctly, I&#8217;m the bike owner who had just come out to retrieve her bicycle, and you (or some other very nice couple) approached me about how a group of kids had almost stolen my bike.  Indeed, once I got home I noticed that my lock was mostly (but not completely) hacked through, and I&#8217;ve since gotten myself a new, sufficiently bad-ass U-lock.</p>
<p>I want to thank you for doing something (even a small something) to dissuade them from taking my bike, since at the time I was particularly confused and worried when you approached me and didn&#8217;t adequately thank you.  In the future, I for one will try and be brave about taking action if I ever see anyone trying to steal bikes.  Even if it&#8217;s not a direct confrontation, any sort of loud distraction or drawing of attention to the situation certainly can&#8217;t hurt.</p>
<p>Thanks again &#8211; I&#8217;m glad I have people like you as neighbors!</p>
<p>-Eryn, the girl from CH who happily still has her blue and silver bike</p>
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		<title>By: Neener</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/11/dear-pop-witnessing-bikes-being-stolen/#comment-138109</link>
		<dc:creator>Neener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If these kids are bold enough to steal bikes in crowded areas in daylight, who knows what else they are capable of. What makes you think you could spook them by yelling at them? What makes you think that outcome is any more likely than getting stabbed or bashed or jumped? Or maybe just remember your face for the next time they see you in the neighborhood when you’re not in front of a crowd?
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By the way you write it&#039;s clear that you have no experience dealing with this.  Really, some of us have direct experience confronting kids.  Leave it to us to comment.  They&#039;ve run from me or slinked away calling me the f-word every time.  I don&#039;t go out of my way to do this, but I&#039;ve told a kid to his face that &quot;he lost his [street name] privileges and the next time I see him on this street he&#039;s going to have to deal with &quot;my family&quot; which I hoped sounded enough like Italian Mafia for him never to come back.  He has come back, but he has never hung out on the sidewalk again AFAIK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If these kids are bold enough to steal bikes in crowded areas in daylight, who knows what else they are capable of. What makes you think you could spook them by yelling at them? What makes you think that outcome is any more likely than getting stabbed or bashed or jumped? Or maybe just remember your face for the next time they see you in the neighborhood when you’re not in front of a crowd?<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>By the way you write it&#8217;s clear that you have no experience dealing with this.  Really, some of us have direct experience confronting kids.  Leave it to us to comment.  They&#8217;ve run from me or slinked away calling me the f-word every time.  I don&#8217;t go out of my way to do this, but I&#8217;ve told a kid to his face that &#8220;he lost his [street name] privileges and the next time I see him on this street he&#8217;s going to have to deal with &#8220;my family&#8221; which I hoped sounded enough like Italian Mafia for him never to come back.  He has come back, but he has never hung out on the sidewalk again AFAIK.</p>
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		<title>By: Neener</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/11/dear-pop-witnessing-bikes-being-stolen/#comment-138108</link>
		<dc:creator>Neener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s time to stand up against our oppressors.  It&#039;s long past time to stand up against our oppressors in this community.  I call 911 all the time on the people who have systematically been trying to oppress me since I moved here.  I will not let some uneducated, ugly, grammatically-challenged, trashy-dressing, smelly, never-shampoos-their-hairdo jerks continue to oppress our community.

Throw off your chains and call the police on the gangstas oppressing you.  grow a pair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s time to stand up against our oppressors.  It&#8217;s long past time to stand up against our oppressors in this community.  I call 911 all the time on the people who have systematically been trying to oppress me since I moved here.  I will not let some uneducated, ugly, grammatically-challenged, trashy-dressing, smelly, never-shampoos-their-hairdo jerks continue to oppress our community.</p>
<p>Throw off your chains and call the police on the gangstas oppressing you.  grow a pair.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zuckerman Says:
White people are afraid of black people. It’s that simple.

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you should get new friends who aren&#039;t as stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zuckerman Says:<br />
White people are afraid of black people. It’s that simple.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
you should get new friends who aren&#8217;t as stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Zuckerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zuckerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>White people are afraid of black people.  It&#039;s that simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>White people are afraid of black people.  It&#8217;s that simple.</p>
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		<title>By: t.n</title>
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		<dc:creator>t.n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well played victoria</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well played victoria</p>
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		<title>By: Meridian PL</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2009/11/dear-pop-witnessing-bikes-being-stolen/#comment-138104</link>
		<dc:creator>Meridian PL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The day I moved into my condo in August some punk kicked in the window of my car and stole a boat load of stuff (that&#039;s the last time I leave anything in my car).  A guy across the street witnessed the whole thing, and about 10 minutes after he said it happened I came outside to discover the situation.  The guy said he was contemplating calling the police when I came out. Contemplating? WTF? For 10 minutes? What could possibly deter somebody from dialing 3 numbers and then briefly explaining to a cop what you saw? Somebody explain this to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The day I moved into my condo in August some punk kicked in the window of my car and stole a boat load of stuff (that&#8217;s the last time I leave anything in my car).  A guy across the street witnessed the whole thing, and about 10 minutes after he said it happened I came outside to discover the situation.  The guy said he was contemplating calling the police when I came out. Contemplating? WTF? For 10 minutes? What could possibly deter somebody from dialing 3 numbers and then briefly explaining to a cop what you saw? Somebody explain this to me.</p>
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		<title>By: victoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow - disturbing responses - gone very &quot;Heart of Darkness&quot; here.  There is plenty of room between ball-kicking and tail-tucking.  Young thieves/thugs, even those emboldened by being in a group (i.e. feral natives) are not going to whomp you in the head with their bolt cutters, and 90% of the time will actually respond to being talked to like a human.

Though the worst of them are tragically quick to shoot each other, they are not likely to mow you down in the street for scolding them.

I&#039;ve live in CH for 22 years and have always - ALWAYS - confronted crimes in progress (except the couple of times there were actual shoot-outs or knife-weilding delusional people in my hallway.)

This includes everything from kids throwing rocks, setting fires, torturing cats, disrupting the bus, breaking into cars, harassing women, fist-fights and a  30+ gang rumble in which guns were pulled.  (OK - I was just yelling out my 4th floor window for that one.)

My approach has always been to confront directly, calmly, with authority but without threat.   &quot;What are you doing?  Why are you doing that?  What do you think is going to happen if you do that?  Would you want someone to hit your little brother in the head with a rock?  Do you think someone should say that, do that, to your mother, sister, grandma?  Would this make your mother proud?&quot;

I can wear their little gangsta asses down and have actually made some cry.   Yeah - I hear a lot of you scoffing - but until you all get over your &quot;marauding visagoth&quot; mentality there is no hope of real community or peace.

And as for the bike stealing video - it&#039;s just stupid.  Here is a long-legged guy who looks like he owns this long-legged bike and is cutting it free with tools in broad daylight.  I might talk to him - &quot;Do you need some help with that?&quot; and call police if I then felt suspicious, but really - how many of you could prove you owned your bike and just lost the key to the lock?

What if it was a black guy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8211; disturbing responses &#8211; gone very &#8220;Heart of Darkness&#8221; here.  There is plenty of room between ball-kicking and tail-tucking.  Young thieves/thugs, even those emboldened by being in a group (i.e. feral natives) are not going to whomp you in the head with their bolt cutters, and 90% of the time will actually respond to being talked to like a human.</p>
<p>Though the worst of them are tragically quick to shoot each other, they are not likely to mow you down in the street for scolding them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve live in CH for 22 years and have always &#8211; ALWAYS &#8211; confronted crimes in progress (except the couple of times there were actual shoot-outs or knife-weilding delusional people in my hallway.)</p>
<p>This includes everything from kids throwing rocks, setting fires, torturing cats, disrupting the bus, breaking into cars, harassing women, fist-fights and a  30+ gang rumble in which guns were pulled.  (OK &#8211; I was just yelling out my 4th floor window for that one.)</p>
<p>My approach has always been to confront directly, calmly, with authority but without threat.   &#8220;What are you doing?  Why are you doing that?  What do you think is going to happen if you do that?  Would you want someone to hit your little brother in the head with a rock?  Do you think someone should say that, do that, to your mother, sister, grandma?  Would this make your mother proud?&#8221;</p>
<p>I can wear their little gangsta asses down and have actually made some cry.   Yeah &#8211; I hear a lot of you scoffing &#8211; but until you all get over your &#8220;marauding visagoth&#8221; mentality there is no hope of real community or peace.</p>
<p>And as for the bike stealing video &#8211; it&#8217;s just stupid.  Here is a long-legged guy who looks like he owns this long-legged bike and is cutting it free with tools in broad daylight.  I might talk to him &#8211; &#8220;Do you need some help with that?&#8221; and call police if I then felt suspicious, but really &#8211; how many of you could prove you owned your bike and just lost the key to the lock?</p>
<p>What if it was a black guy?</p>
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		<title>By: pqresident</title>
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		<dc:creator>pqresident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>over the summer in the 7th Street CitySports here in Chinatown, five teens came into the store to cause trouble by mouthing off, feigning like they were going to make off with merchandise and generally threatening the sales staff verbally. these were rough, unsocialized kids. I didn&#039;t say much because it was clear the manager was on to them and keeping an eye on the situation. one of them threatened the sales guy helping me buy new running shoes and that&#039;s when I stood up and told her that she doesn&#039;t talk that way to people. it really caught her and her buddies by surprise that someone stood up to her. these folks thrive on intimidation...take it away and you take away their sense of authority.

it&#039;s totally one&#039;s own call whether or not to say something or do something because some criminals will be armed. if you feel comfortable doing it, I say take &#039;em on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>over the summer in the 7th Street CitySports here in Chinatown, five teens came into the store to cause trouble by mouthing off, feigning like they were going to make off with merchandise and generally threatening the sales staff verbally. these were rough, unsocialized kids. I didn&#8217;t say much because it was clear the manager was on to them and keeping an eye on the situation. one of them threatened the sales guy helping me buy new running shoes and that&#8217;s when I stood up and told her that she doesn&#8217;t talk that way to people. it really caught her and her buddies by surprise that someone stood up to her. these folks thrive on intimidation&#8230;take it away and you take away their sense of authority.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s totally one&#8217;s own call whether or not to say something or do something because some criminals will be armed. if you feel comfortable doing it, I say take &#8216;em on.</p>
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