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		<title>By: victoria</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2010/02/should-we-be-worried-about-our-roofs/#comment-172350</link>
		<dc:creator>victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 02:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone know about clearing outside snow-buried HVAC units? How much surface do they really need? Top? Sides?  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone know about clearing outside snow-buried HVAC units? How much surface do they really need? Top? Sides?  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: DC home Inspector</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2010/02/should-we-be-worried-about-our-roofs/#comment-172348</link>
		<dc:creator>DC home Inspector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To say that building codes haven&#039;t changed much in 100 years is the equivalent of saying building cars haven&#039;t changed much in 100 years. The building code is drastically different when compared to the code from 30 years ago. I could go through a systematic list of changes over 30 years that have saved lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To say that building codes haven&#8217;t changed much in 100 years is the equivalent of saying building cars haven&#8217;t changed much in 100 years. The building code is drastically different when compared to the code from 30 years ago. I could go through a systematic list of changes over 30 years that have saved lives.</p>
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		<title>By: carol</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2010/02/should-we-be-worried-about-our-roofs/#comment-171888</link>
		<dc:creator>carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 05:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we have 3 new cracks in our ceiling - middle of the house.  we braced them with an old door and lots of lumber.  we&#039;re clearing off that damn snow tomorrow morning!!!  i wish we did this before this latest snow!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we have 3 new cracks in our ceiling &#8211; middle of the house.  we braced them with an old door and lots of lumber.  we&#8217;re clearing off that damn snow tomorrow morning!!!  i wish we did this before this latest snow!!!</p>
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		<title>By: IrvingGreen</title>
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		<dc:creator>IrvingGreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fresh off the wire:

Man injured as roof collapses while clearing snow
February 9, 2010 - 2:46pm

UPPER MARLBORO, Md. (AP) - Fire officials say a man attempting to clear off snow from his garage roof in Upper Marlboro was thrown from a ladder when the roof collapsed.

Prince George&#039;s fire department officials say the man, who was in his 60s, fell about 20 feet Tuesday and sustained potentially serious injuries. The man was taken to a regional trauma center for treatment.

Officials are urging residents not to venture onto their roofs to clear off snow. They say a person&#039;s weight can be enough to cause a collapse.

Instead, officials are urging residents to call roofing contractors to remove the snow. Fire department officials say residents should check for sagging roofs or the sound of breaking wood. If the roof structure seems weak, they say residents should evacuate and call 911.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fresh off the wire:</p>
<p>Man injured as roof collapses while clearing snow<br />
February 9, 2010 &#8211; 2:46pm</p>
<p>UPPER MARLBORO, Md. (AP) &#8211; Fire officials say a man attempting to clear off snow from his garage roof in Upper Marlboro was thrown from a ladder when the roof collapsed.</p>
<p>Prince George&#8217;s fire department officials say the man, who was in his 60s, fell about 20 feet Tuesday and sustained potentially serious injuries. The man was taken to a regional trauma center for treatment.</p>
<p>Officials are urging residents not to venture onto their roofs to clear off snow. They say a person&#8217;s weight can be enough to cause a collapse.</p>
<p>Instead, officials are urging residents to call roofing contractors to remove the snow. Fire department officials say residents should check for sagging roofs or the sound of breaking wood. If the roof structure seems weak, they say residents should evacuate and call 911.</p>
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		<title>By: GoldCoast-16th St Heights</title>
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		<dc:creator>GoldCoast-16th St Heights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just shoveled a portion of my house that has a flat roof because I was more concerned about damage to the roofing membrane and leaks rather than a full collapse.  I was very surprised by the sheer weight of the snow/ice mixture.  Additionally, I quickly learned that the flat roof became the repository for all of the snow sliding off of the pitched part of my roof.  I had about four feet of accumulating snow and ice.  In short, I recommend evaluating your flat roof, and don&#039;t assume that the depth of snow is equivalent to the snowfall.  It could be considerably deeper, particularly if the flat roof is adjacent to a pitched roof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just shoveled a portion of my house that has a flat roof because I was more concerned about damage to the roofing membrane and leaks rather than a full collapse.  I was very surprised by the sheer weight of the snow/ice mixture.  Additionally, I quickly learned that the flat roof became the repository for all of the snow sliding off of the pitched part of my roof.  I had about four feet of accumulating snow and ice.  In short, I recommend evaluating your flat roof, and don&#8217;t assume that the depth of snow is equivalent to the snowfall.  It could be considerably deeper, particularly if the flat roof is adjacent to a pitched roof.</p>
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		<title>By: hg</title>
		<link>http://www.princeofpetworth.com/2010/02/should-we-be-worried-about-our-roofs/#comment-171179</link>
		<dc:creator>hg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just finished shoveling my flat roof.  Before this task, I looked across in the back to see my neighbour&#039;s roof and from far it appears there was about 7&quot; or so snow on their roof.  I expected the same as I went up the roof, but to my surprise, our side of the row houses all have about 20&quot; of snow on them.  I took three breaks in between, but finally finished.  Now I have to go outside and clear the same snow off the path.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just finished shoveling my flat roof.  Before this task, I looked across in the back to see my neighbour&#8217;s roof and from far it appears there was about 7&#8243; or so snow on their roof.  I expected the same as I went up the roof, but to my surprise, our side of the row houses all have about 20&#8243; of snow on them.  I took three breaks in between, but finally finished.  Now I have to go outside and clear the same snow off the path.</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a worry.  However, if my 100+ year old town house survived the Knickerbocker storm and its 28 inches of snow, I&#039;m hoping it can make it this week. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knickerbocker_Storm


captcha = Poland sunbelt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a worry.  However, if my 100+ year old town house survived the Knickerbocker storm and its 28 inches of snow, I&#8217;m hoping it can make it this week. </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knickerbocker_Storm" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knickerbocker_Storm</a></p>
<p>captcha = Poland sunbelt</p>
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		<title>By: lou</title>
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		<dc:creator>lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s an excellent article in the Post about roofs in DC and snow.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/09/AR2010020900922.html?wprss=rss_metro</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s an excellent article in the Post about roofs in DC and snow.<br />
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/09/AR2010020900922.html?wprss=rss_metro" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/09/AR2010020900922.html?wprss=rss_metro</a></p>
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		<title>By: Newman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...just a few comments on roof snow loads, from a civil engineer visiting DC during the snowfall.  

Mr. Green&#039;s discussion are really on point, and should put at ease building owners, and discourage dangerous roof visits.  Added reasons to not worry are that occupied structures are built with an extra margin of safety beyond the code-required 25 lbs/sq ft design snow load for the DC area.  That margin occurs whether calculated by professionals or by the intuition and tradition of builders going back centuries.   Many older structures are stronger than newer calculated-designs.

Data on snow depth is usually the fresh-fallen depth, and fresh-fallen snow is usually under 10 lbs per cubic ft; it usually compacts with time, up to 15 and even 30 lbs per cu ft. (but then it has less depth).  So, don&#039;t be so sure that 30 inches of snowfall equals 30 inches on your roof.

Yes, be watchful for new sagging, cracks, groaning.  Most winter roof collapses I&#039;ve seen result from 1] ice buildup (like on flat roofs with plugged drains), 2] weak construction (like on porch roofs, DIY garages and sheds, or low-cost buildings using wrong standards e.g. a pre-fab bldg designed for more southern climates), and 3]decrepit old buildings.   My advice-- maintain your building well before a storm, inspecting drains and poking for wood structure rot or metal structure corrosion.  If you have a flat roof, look for ponding on a rainy day.   Best candidates for winter roof collapse-- an old flat-roof garage with rotted framing and leaves from a big shade tree nearby.

And, yes, a flat roof is often at more risk for several reasons.  One is that lots of ice or water can accumulate if a drain is plugged. On a sloped roof, the gutters simply overflow. Secondly, a pitched roof will have more triangular framing (strong) as compared to the trusses or beams for a flat roof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;just a few comments on roof snow loads, from a civil engineer visiting DC during the snowfall.  </p>
<p>Mr. Green&#8217;s discussion are really on point, and should put at ease building owners, and discourage dangerous roof visits.  Added reasons to not worry are that occupied structures are built with an extra margin of safety beyond the code-required 25 lbs/sq ft design snow load for the DC area.  That margin occurs whether calculated by professionals or by the intuition and tradition of builders going back centuries.   Many older structures are stronger than newer calculated-designs.</p>
<p>Data on snow depth is usually the fresh-fallen depth, and fresh-fallen snow is usually under 10 lbs per cubic ft; it usually compacts with time, up to 15 and even 30 lbs per cu ft. (but then it has less depth).  So, don&#8217;t be so sure that 30 inches of snowfall equals 30 inches on your roof.</p>
<p>Yes, be watchful for new sagging, cracks, groaning.  Most winter roof collapses I&#8217;ve seen result from 1] ice buildup (like on flat roofs with plugged drains), 2] weak construction (like on porch roofs, DIY garages and sheds, or low-cost buildings using wrong standards e.g. a pre-fab bldg designed for more southern climates), and 3]decrepit old buildings.   My advice&#8211; maintain your building well before a storm, inspecting drains and poking for wood structure rot or metal structure corrosion.  If you have a flat roof, look for ponding on a rainy day.   Best candidates for winter roof collapse&#8211; an old flat-roof garage with rotted framing and leaves from a big shade tree nearby.</p>
<p>And, yes, a flat roof is often at more risk for several reasons.  One is that lots of ice or water can accumulate if a drain is plugged. On a sloped roof, the gutters simply overflow. Secondly, a pitched roof will have more triangular framing (strong) as compared to the trusses or beams for a flat roof.</p>
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		<title>By: cookietime420</title>
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		<dc:creator>cookietime420</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The good news is that there haven&#039;t been a lot of collapsed roofs so far - just a handful by my count.  From what I&#039;ve read, the most vulnerable roofs span much larger areas than the typical roof on a house in DC, such as those on top of commercial spaces.  For instance a roof collapsed over an ice rink in PG county.  

We can all take comfort in the fact that our roofs have withstood major snows in the past.  I also take comfort after seeing what my own roof can take.  I own a condo in a row house that had an insanely dangerous deck.  The supports sat on top of the roof, and not even the joists.  We reconfigured it so that the supports are now on top of the brick wall.  That deck supported people for years before it was fixed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The good news is that there haven&#8217;t been a lot of collapsed roofs so far &#8211; just a handful by my count.  From what I&#8217;ve read, the most vulnerable roofs span much larger areas than the typical roof on a house in DC, such as those on top of commercial spaces.  For instance a roof collapsed over an ice rink in PG county.  </p>
<p>We can all take comfort in the fact that our roofs have withstood major snows in the past.  I also take comfort after seeing what my own roof can take.  I own a condo in a row house that had an insanely dangerous deck.  The supports sat on top of the roof, and not even the joists.  We reconfigured it so that the supports are now on top of the brick wall.  That deck supported people for years before it was fixed.</p>
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